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Re: AW: NEW: Clown correction

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Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]>

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SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages

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Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:41:46 -0700

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SignWriting List
September 12, 2011

You know Bill, this is an excellent example of what I mean when I say the "Finger Direction is Meaningful"....

In the attached version of CLOWN that I attached below, the Index and Middle Fingers are more on the top, but in your writing, the same fingers are on the side...so for me, I would read those two writings differently, placing the fingers where we write them, so we are touching the nose in two different ways - that is an excellent example of how finger direction matters - yours could be read as peuw as you say - or it could just be another signing style...

Val ;-)

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On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Bill Reese wrote:

> So if I should write it like this:



> > it would be wrong one way and right another? Looks like I would be saying "peuw" rather than "clown" anyways. lol > > Bill > > > > On 9/12/2011 4:45 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote: >> >> SignWriting List >> September 12, 2011 >> >> Hi Charles - >> Thanks for this message! >> >> The word intuitive is used in different ways - no one says the thumbs match - of course they don't! >> >> But it is intuitive for us in other ways - we like placing the right hand on the right side of the body, because for us, it goes back to the old stick figure - before we used to write the arm lines attached to these hand symbols and they still do in Denmark and sometimes in schools, and since the right arm is on the right side of the body, it feels best to me anyway, to have the right hand on the right side of the body...but of course the details of the thumbs are not perfect - you are absolutely right - in the long run though, people do read stick figures and when you take the stick figure away and leave just the hands, you have the hands on the right side of the face - so we were never saying that the photo and the symbol match one hundred percent - they never have since the beginning of the system - but when we write, there is an intuitive feeling to the writing system anyway - at least that is what others tell me - I respect your concern and please go right ahead and write as you wish - we are just documenting what the symbols represent to us - >> >> >>
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