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I remember when I was having a hard time with these symbols as well. I think the main reason is that there is so much going on in one symbol. They way that it helped me was to understand that it was really two symbols put together. The traveling arrow and the rotation arrow. I have found that the reason many people have a hard time understanding the combination is not because of the traveling arrow but the rotation. I have found that it isn't an easy one to teach with just words. I have to show someone how rotations work. ;-)

Here are some writings of rotation and traveling arrows separated, and then together.

          

And here is a short video of where I do rotations, traveling, and then both together following as I have them written.



Adam

On Aug 5, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:

> SignWriting List
> August 5, 2010
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>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 5:11 AM, Honza wrote:
>>> please can you clarify difference between this symbols?
>>> I suppose that difference is in orientation of hand. If fingers in basic handshape heading to the front than it is possible to use first (left) symbol. If fingers heading up than second symbol have to be used.
>>> right?
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> Honza
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> Hello Honza and everyone!
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> Yes. That is correct.
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> Please see my attached diagram here:
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> I have also placed these examples in your Czech dictionary in SignPuddle...
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> Both arrows are traveling straight up, parallel to the Front Wall.
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> While the movement travels up, at the same time, two rotations occur in the arm, while it travels up.
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> 1. Example Number 1: The arm is parallel to the floor doing the rotation while the entire arm travels up.
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> 2. Example Number 2: The arm is parallel to the front wall, doing the rotation forward and around while traveling up...