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Hi Ingvild,
    Yes they should be and are different. 

But see how a handshape relate to the signtyp hand posture.  Why?  Because they are both describing the same reality from two different points of view.



My hand search work just the oposite of Signwriting to Signtype.


You can choose which fingers are extended, root shape, etc to find just the handshape you need for a sign.   I was thinking of extending the search criteria to me be inclusive of  hand feature as is the signtyp  hand posture.

Jonathan

On 10/27/2010 11:17 AM, Ingvild Roald wrote:
[log in to unmask]" type="cite"> So Jonathan and everyone: the SignTyp seems to be a research tool for sign linguists, while the SignStudio is for the general  user, am I right? Then they should be different ...

Ingvild


 
> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 08:26:47 -0700
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: SignWriting Linguistics Forum updated to include SignTyp project
> To: [log in to unmask]
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> SignWriting List
> October 27, 2010
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> Hello Jonathan, and everyone -
>
> This sounds like significant work, Jonathan - Your new SignWriter Studio program will have some new features that are unique ... identifying handshape characteristics through a Hand Search filter ...that sounds really useful -
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> For List members - Jonathan is in Honduras, and is developing a new computer program called "SignWriter Studio", which was in beta ... and now there is a new version coming that is not yet in beta....
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> SignWriter Studio
> http://signwriterstudio.com/
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> and Jonathan has contributed some Honduran Sign Language information to a demo of the SignTyp project too -
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> SignTyp Project in SW Linguistics
> http://www.signwriting.org/forums/linguistics/
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> Val ;-)
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> On Oct 27, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Jonathan y Yolaine wrote:
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> > Hello Rachel, Charles, Val and everyone,
> > I enjoyed looking over the SignTyp poster. You know, I am working right now on a part of my SignWriter project that ties in a little with the SignWriting to SignTyp. Except that I am going from hand characteristics to symbol, in SignWriter Studio it is called "Hand Search". I have it setup for all the hand basegroups but it isn't as detailed as SignTyp. I personally feel that it would benefit being a bit more complete as far handshape characteristics. But having full SignTyp would probably be too complicated for the user. The Idea of "Hand Search" is to set a filter for the caracteristics of the hand shape you are looking for and it shows a list of handshapes that match the filter, ready to input into a sign.
> >
> > Have you analyzed the handshapes yet to get their characteristics or is this a future project?
> >
> > Jonathan
> > On 10/21/2010 12:22 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
> >> SignWriting List
> >> October 20, 2010
> >>
> >> Hello Charles, Rachel and everyone -
> >>
> >> This web page is now updated:
> >>
> >> SignWriting Linguistics Forum
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> >> http://www.signwriting.org/forums/linguistics/
> >>
> >>
> >> to include two links to the SignTyp project...a link to download the PDF of the poster, and also a link to a description of the SignTyp project - and of course your photo too!
> >>
> >> And the other documents and web links on this web page are popular and have played an important part in SignWriting history ...People download Joe Martin's comparison between the Stokoe system and SignWriting frequently (thank you, Joe, for your excellent comparison). This is number 4 on the linguistics web page...There is also a web version, which you do not have to download...The comparison between the Stokoe system and SignWriting was needed back in the year 2000, because at that time people really did not know the difference between the systems...so Joe's article helped with that transition...
> >>
> >> There is also Joe's 2007 thesis, and the work of Ingvild Roald from Norway, and Steve and Dianne Parkhurst's 2008 book from Spain ...and a web article that shows a comparison between the Stokoe system, SignWriting and HamNoSys, which was also pivotal...
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> >> So thank you, to all of you, for your contributions -
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> >> Val ;-)
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