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October 28, 2010

Yes - I received your PDF of your dissertation in my private email - thanks so much, Erika, and I can see you mention SignWriting a lot - smile - glad to see that ;-)

If you want to post it to the List, then if I have permission from your publishers, I could place it on our site for download - it all depends on what their restrictions are...

Regarding Senghas and Monaghan, they are just two people out of hundreds of mentions of SignWriting in documents and published books around the world - the list is so long that I have problems creating the list for all of you - I think I have to stop and just post what i have in a few hours -

Val ;-)

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On Oct 28, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Erika Hoffmann wrote:

> Hi Val-
> Don't order the dissertation - I can get you a pdf! In fact, my first
> draft of the email had the pdf attached, but it bounced back because
> it was too big. But probably it will go through in a private email.
> The Senghas and Monaghan article mentions SignWriting near the end - I
> thought it might help Jessie in that it shows that SSW is known and
> acknowledged in published works, even if SSW is not the focus of the
> article.
> Best,
> Erika
> 
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> SignWriting List
>> October 28, 2010
>> 
>> Hello Erika!
>> Thank you for all this information...I am enjoying trying to digest it all - the link to your dissertation goes to a summary without any mention of SignWriting, and I would need to order a copy of your dissertation, however, there is a Preview link on that web page, which gave around the first 17 pages of your dissertation and I can see you mentioned James Shepard Kegl's work, and my work and so forth - thank you for this link. I will order a copy of your dissertation for sure...
>> 
>> The other publication which you attached was interesting - This was written by others, and they showed some writing with Labanotation - I couldn't even find their mention of SignWriting yet, good or bad - ha! But that is ok. If they mentioned SignWriting, which I am sure they did, I just have to find the mention in the article, then they are forgiven if they do not understand its value and difference with Laban's work - there is a huge difference between our systems and that would be a dissertation in its own right!
>> 
>> OK. I am trying, Jessie, to finish a web page listing some of the many publications on SignWriting in a bibliographic style, and will have to post this later today ...thanks for your patience...
>> 
>> And I hope others will feel free to tell us about your research too - the more the better -
>> 
>> Val ;-)
>> 
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>> On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:57 AM, Erika Hoffmann wrote:
>> 
>>> Sure Val, feel free - Also, here's a link to my dissertation (which I
>>> now find quite embarrassing - I'm sure the SignWriting in it is very
>>> unskilled - and written from receptive viewpoint):
>>> http://gradworks.umi.com/33/04/3304987.html
>>> I'm also attaching the annual review article I mentioned. They suggest
>>> that SignWriting is good for writing "less precise" fieldnotes - which
>>> I bristle at. These are both really good scholars, but I'm guessing
>>> that they had minimal experience with SSW when they wrote the article
>>> -since SSW is, to my mind, potentially much more precise than any
>>> other system.
>>> Best,
>>> Erika
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> SignWriting List
>>>> October 27, 2010
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Erika!
>>>> Thank you for this great report. You are accomplishing so much and your work is really fascinating.
>>>> 
>>>> Can you provide the links to each of the items that you mention below? I am still preparing a little bibliography to give Jessie a sample of some of the publications and papers written by others, and I would like to include all you mention below, but I will need some links...
>>>> 
>>>> I found this link...is this correct?
>>>> 
>>>> Metasemiotic Regimentation in the Standardization of Nepali Sign Language,
>>>> The Journal of Linguistic Anthropology 18:2, 2008:
>>>> 
>>>> http://linguisticanthropology.org/web-enhanced-articles/web-enhanced-article-metasemiotic-regimentation-in-the-standardization-of-nepali-sign-language/
>>>> 
>>>> and attached is your PDF document which includes SignWriting, which you posted to the List long ago:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Do I have your permission to post this PDF in the SignWriting PDF Archives on signwriting.org? I could place a link to it either in the SignWriting Research Forum page, and/or the SignWriting Linguistics Forum page...if this is not possible that is ok, but if your answer is yes, I will post it there today -
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you, Erika!
>>>> 
>>>> Val ;-)
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Erika Hoffmann wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jessie,
>>>>> I have an article about SignWriting under review at an academic
>>>>> journal - perhaps it will make it through the review process in time
>>>>> to be something you can cite as "in press". I also want to note that I
>>>>> use SSW for a transcript in a web supplement to an academic article
>>>>> (Metasemiotic Regimentation in the Standardization of Nepali Sign
>>>>> Language, The Journal of Linguistic Anthropology 18:2, 2008). Finally,
>>>>> there is some discussion of SSW in my Ph.D. dissertation
>>>>> (Standardization Beyond Form: Ideologies, Institutions, and the
>>>>> Semiotics of Nepali Sign Language, 2008). Joe Martin has very good
>>>>> discussions of SSW in his B.A. and M.A. thesis  - Cecilia Flood as
>>>>> well - it is quite common to cite dissertations and theses in academic
>>>>> work, so perhaps they will suit the needs of your class.
>>>>> SSW also gets brief mention in several published works - one that
>>>>> comes to mind offhand is "Signs of Their Times" by Senghas and
>>>>> Monaghan in the Annual Review of Anthropology.
>>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Erika
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>> SignWriting List
>>>>>> October 27, 2010
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Charles - did you get the big box on your doorstep this week? Please tell me - I am a person who worries about deliveries!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Smile -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, Jessie, Charles is correct that there are many books published using SignWriitng around the world. These volumes, from Brazil, for example:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> NOVO DEIT-LIBRAS:
>>>>>> Dicionário Enciclopédico Ilustrado Trilíngue da Língua de Sinais Brasileira (Libras) baseado em Linguística e Neurociências Cognitivas, 2 vols.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> de Fernando César Capovilla; Walkiria Duarte Raphael; Aline Cristina L. Mauricio
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ISBN Vol. 1: 978-85-314-1178-6
>>>>>> ISBN Vol. 2: 978-85-314-1179-3
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.signwriting.org/brazil/NovoDeitLibras.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Charles Butler wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jessie,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Don't' the artciles that are linked from academic journals on signwritng.org count? They are linked to peer reviewed journals at University sites.  They don't originate with signwriting.org, but are academically produced everywhere from Norway to Brazil. Each of these publications have their own schedule.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The recent publication from Brazil on an encyclopedic dictionary are an example, they were funded entirely in Brazil through the University of Sao Paulo and other related organizations, I believe.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If they are linked to signwriting.org don't assume that they are automatically generated by the Center for Sutton Movement Writing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are newspaper artciles all over the world, and publications from Danish, German, and other sources that are clearly published elsewhere.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Charles
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: "Doyle,Jessie" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, October 27, 2010 1:13:25 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: articles or publications about Valerie Sutton ond/or SignWriting
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Stefan,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am a student in a Deaf Studies program. We have been assigned a research project, and need to find academic and professional articles that have been published about our topic, in this case Valerie Sutton and SignWriting. I am having trouble because the only sources I can find are Wikipedia andsignwriting.org. I need to find books or articles that have been published. I have read almost everything on signwriting.org, but I cannot use this as a source for my project.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hope this is more clear and answers your questions.
>>>>>>> - Jessie
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Stefan Wöhrmann [[log in to unmask]]
>>>>>>> Sent: October 27, 2010 1:43 PM
>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> Subject: AW: articles or publications about Valerie Sutton ond/or SignWriting
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Jessie,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ..articles about Valerie Sutton  and/or SignWriting
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [cid:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am curious. Can you explain something about your project and the idea behind this message?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Years ago I asked Valerie to give us more insight about her method and strategy to invent this ingenious writing system. So she had been so kind to share her biography ...  You can find it along with many many pictures on the signwriting.org website ...  Every life has a story...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.valeriesutton.org/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You may want to look at the dancewriting website as well - smile.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are so many articles and information posted on the signwriting.org website -
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It really makes sense to understand more of the background of this very special woman.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Stefan ;-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>> Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Doyle,Jessie
>>>>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Oktober 2010 17:19
>>>>>>> An: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> Betreff: articles or publications about Valerie Sutton ond/or SignWriting
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am currently doing a project on Valerie Sutton and SignWriting. I need to compile an annotated bibliography and am looking for articles or other texts on Valerie Sutton or SignWriting. Does anyone know of any poublications?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks very much!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Jessie
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway
>>>>> Assistant Professor of Anthropology
>>>>> Oberlin College
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>>> Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway
>>> Assistant Professor of Anthropology
>>> Oberlin College
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> Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway
> Assistant Professor of Anthropology
> Oberlin College
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