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Hello Cherie, Val ... Perhaps it is also a question of "habit" and "personal style" - You know that I add many head circles if I need to document the information coming from the mouth ... same thing if I would like to focus on change in eyebrows or facial expressions not connected with spoken language .... so I write and read the head circles from left to right - In this spider example eyes and mouth(gesture?!) change while the spider is coming down. One problem I see is that without any shoulder line the visual information says the spider is coming down (arrow information) but on the other hand it keeps at height of the head circle ... Know what I mean? Stefan ;-) -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Oktober 2010 18:25 An: [log in to unmask] Betreff: Re: Writing Head and Face in Punctuation SignWriting List October 9, 2010 I love this writing, for changing facial expressions during the production of the sign...very nicely written!