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December 15, 2010

Thank you, Stefan! This is great information -

SignWriter DOS 4.4 is over 15 years old - 

I have not worked with it lately ;-)

Now I remember - we can export to BMP format from SignWriter DOS - thanks for pointing that out -

I am so glad SignWriter Python was developed - that is a great help -

Meryeme - have you downloaded SignWriter Python?

SignWriter Python
http://signwriter.takdoc.de/

It doesn't solve your exact request, but it is a good addition -


Val ;-)

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On Dec 15, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:

> Hi Val, 
> well - there is an extra computer at my office running Win98 (!!! Can you
> believe - just and only to create wonderful documents with the good old
> SW4.4 program. Well in this case I use MS-DOS. 
> 
> Do you remember our sequence of email exchange to get my printer ready to
> print documents in different formats? Ha - great time! 
> 
> This does not function any more with Windows XP ... 
> 
> With the support of the DOS-box we can write documents and create dictionary
> entries ( as long as your dictionary does not have more than about 10.000
> entries ;-((( ) ... but we cannot print. But we can create .ps files and can
> convert these later to .pdf files. Or - we can export files and will get
> .bmp graphics 
> Is this what you are asking for? 
> 
> Well that is not the best method to work for every day use ... 
> 
> So if I want to print large documents - I prefer to open the .sgn files with
> the SW Python program and now we can print the file in some different format
> - but it  works fine. 
> 
> Hope that helps? 
> 
> Stefan ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Dezember 2010 18:57
> An: [log in to unmask]
> Betreff: Re: AW: copy and past
> 
> SignWriting List
> December 15, 2010
> 
> smile -
> 
> Hi Stefan!
> When you use SignWriter DOS, you are using MS-DOS. How do you copy a sign
> from SignWriter DOS into another program, like Notepad, or Wordpad, or
> Microsoft Word?
> 
> That is what I meant... You mentioned that you can use SignWriter Python to
> print better... which is great news ... does SignWriter Python help with the
> need to copy and paste signs from SignWriter DOS to other programs?
> 
> Meryeme wants to type something in SignWriter DOS, and then copy it and
> paste it into another program...
> 
> Val ;-)
> 
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> 
> 
> On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:
> 
>> .. Hi Val , 
>> 
>> what do you mean? 
>> 
>> I am supposed to know how to do "what" from MS-DOS ?? 
>> 
>> Stefan 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Dezember 2010 17:49
>> An: [log in to unmask]
>> Betreff: Re: copy and past
>> 
>> SignWriting List
>> December 15, 2010
>> 
>> Hello Bill and Meryeme -
>> 
>> Very true...thank you Bill...so here is my question...Does Notepad accept
>> Unicode? For example, text can also be written Arabic, written Chinese and
>> so forth, using Unicode...
>> 
>> I haven't used MS-DOS in years, but my memory is that Notepad is only
> ASCIII
>> characters?
>> 
>> Can you write Arabic in Notepad, Meryeme?
>> 
>> In recent years, Steve Slevinski developed a way to place SignWriting
>> symbols into UTF8, which is not the official Unicode, but getting
> closer...I
>> wonder if UTF8 could work in Notepad? probably not -
>> 
>> Can you use another program, like WordPad, Meryeme? Or Microsoft Word?
> Does
>> WordPad accept graphics? We know Word does...
>> 
>> Inside the SignWriter DOS program, the SignWriting symbols act like text.
>> But outside the SignWriter DOS environment, they become graphics, except
> for
>> Steve's special work with Binary SignWriting (BSW) and UTF8:
>> http://www.signbank.org/bsw/
>> 
>> So if you need the graphics of each symbol, Meryeme, you can download the
>> complete symbolset in .png format, or possibly in .gif format for the old
>> symbols used in SignWriter DOS, without using any program.
>> 
>> Go to SymbolBank download page for SignWriter DOS symbols: sss-1995:
>> http://www.movementwriting.org/symbolbank/IMWA2004/IMWA-Downloads.html
>> 
>> If you need the graphics of completely written signs, that is different -
> I
>> use SignPuddle to do that, or SignWriter Java, rather than MS-DOS - 
>> 
>> Maybe Stefan will know how to do it from MS-DOS?
>> 
>> Val ;-)
>> 
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>> 
>> On Dec 15, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Bill Reese wrote:
>> 
>>> Meryeme,
>>> Notepad is text only format - it doesn't save format information so such
>> things like graphics can't be put into Notepad.   Once you put signwriting
>> into a word processor, it's available as a graphic and can be copied and
>> pasted into other programs that support graphics but not programs that
>> support only text.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/15/2010 10:04 AM, Meryeme Ayache wrote:
>>>> hey every one 
>>>> 
>>>> I am wondering if we can copy and past from word the signwriting letters
>> to notepad for exemple. I mean I am wondering if we can copy f to notepad
>> without it get converted to f. do you have an idea about how to do that
>> please?
>>>> -- 
>>>> Meryeme Ayache.
>>>> Elève ingénieur ( 2ème année )
>>>> Ecole Nationale Supérieure d'Informatique et d'Analyse des Systèmes
>> (Rabat).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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