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January 21, 2011

Hello Eda and everyone -

Yes, that is right. Do not use .bmp format, because the images that  
come from SignPuddle are .png format. And SignPuddle was originally  
designed for Mozilla and Firefox, so it is recommended that you use  
Firefox when using SignPuddle, or another browser that uses the  
Mozilla engine...

Internet Explorer works in general, but when it comes to SignPuddle,  
it is not always as good as Firefox...so if you stick to .PNG images,  
and use Firefox, it should go better for you.

Did you know that we have HELP files for SignPuddle?

Go to:

SignPuddle Help
http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/help/

The manuals are in French, German, Arabic and English - no  
Portuguese ;-(

Val ;-)

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On Jan 21, 2011, at 3:42 AM, Eda AMORim wrote:

> Val e todos da lsita!
>
> Fiz um teste e veja o que aconteceu. Acho que o problema são os  
> navegadores. Fiz o procedimento como a Val descreveu.
> Segue anexo uma tabela, acho que ficará mais claro o entendimento.
> Salvei e colei no Word com o documento, não a imagem, o documento  
> com fundo laranja.
> Internet Explorer salvou em bmp
> Mozila Firefox salvou em PNG
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> Abraços
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> Val and all the lsita!
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> I did a test and see what happened. I think the problem is the  
> browsers. I did the procedure as described Val.
>
> Here attached a table, I think it will become clearer understanding.
>
> I saved and pasted into Word to the document, not the image, the  
> document with an orange background.
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> Internet Explorer saved in bmp
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> Mozilla Firefox saved in PNG
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> Hugs
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> Eda Amorim
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> > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:45:44 -0800
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: How to Copy Signs from SignPuddle to your computer
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > SignWriting List
> > January 20, 2011
> >
> > On Jan 20, 2011, at 5:37 PM, Cherie Wren wrote:
> >
> > > But if you want a transparent background instead of a solid  
> white background: I get the black mess too, in several different  
> programs (word and powerpoint) so it might be a browser thing?
> > > cherie
> >
> >
> > Hi Cherie and everyone -
> >
> > The point that both Steve and Bill taught us today is, that there  
> is a difference between choosing "Copy Image" and choosing "Save  
> Image" ...you need to Save the file to your desktop first, before  
> inserting the image into another program...If you right-click on  
> your mouse, and choose Copy Image, then you may get the black  
> background. The best way to get the Transparent background is not to  
> use Copy, but instead choose "Save Image" and download it to your  
> desktop first. Once it has been "saved" to your desktop and given a  
> new name, then you can open another program like Word or PowerPoint,  
> and use the "Place Image" or "Insert Picture" commands inside those  
> programs. The programs will ask you to find the file on your desktop  
> to insert it - It is possible the transparency will be saved that  
> way...but the Copy command doesn't hold the transparency because of  
> the way the Windows clipboard works - anyway, that was my  
> understanding of what they both said below - which is extremely h
> > elpful - thank you Bill and Steve -
> >
> > See Bill and Steve's answers below...
> >
> > Val;-)
> >
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> >
> >
> > On Jan 20, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Bill Reese wrote:
> >
> > > To add a bit to what Steve was saying, Windows Clipboard - where  
> text and images are temporarily stored when you copy and paste -  
> converts images to it's own supported formats. These formats need to  
> be 32-bit per pixel in order to support transparency's alpha  
> channel. However, on most systems you only get a 24-bit per pixel  
> bitmap, which strips the transparency bits. That means when you  
> paste it, you'll get a background color instead of transparency. And  
> even if your system copies in a 32-bit per pixel format, the  
> application you're pasting into may not accept the alpha channel and  
> will show the background as a color.
> > >
> > > As Steve suggests, saving the image to file will preserve it's  
> format.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/20/2011 1:59 PM, Steve Slevinski wrote:
> > >> Hi Val and Eda,
> > >>
> > >> The black background is probably caused by an incomplete copy  
> of the image. Basically, part of the image is not copied. I'm not  
> sure if this is operating system level or browser level. I was never  
> able to fix this, but there should be a work-around.
> > >>
> > >> Instead of "Copy image" from the browser, use the "Save image  
> as..." to create a file. The new file will contain the transparent  
> background part of the image. If this file doesn't work properly in  
> your application, then the application you're using does not fully  
> support PNG images.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> -Steve
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> <Transparencia.jpg>