Expressive and receptive greeting cards.  I think both are part of the Deaf culture, if I'm waving at you, I see your hands, not mine, moving.  If I see my own hands as I write the caption inside, it is my writing so both are useful.

Charles



From: Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Fri, December 31, 2010 12:54:02 AM
Subject: Re: Happy New Year to the SignWriting List!

SignWriting List
December 30, 2010

Hello Charles and Eda!

Thanks for your feedback, Charles. I agree that photos that are taken from the Expressive Viewpoint are the best .... where we really see the sign from the signer's view .... with the camera on the signer's shoulder, or looking over the signer's shoulder -  that would illustrate the Expressive writing the best... like Adam Frost's photos for the animated GIFs are take over his shoulder, so they capture the Expressive view...

Anyway, the writing of the sign is much clearer now -

And Happy New Year!

Val ;-)

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On Dec 30, 2010, at 8:49 PM, Charles Butler wrote:

> Eu mesmo, o primeiro sinal, sem braco.  Com duas maos, e mais facil a leer.
>
> I, the same, the first sign, without the arm.  With two hands, it is much easier to read.
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> Charles
>
> I personally must interject that I find showing a photograph and then showing an expressive writing is completely confusing to me.  I write what I see, if I see receptive, I write receptive. 
>
> If I am writing my own hands, I write expressive.  Writing in opposite directions for the same writing when trying to compare what a person is doing on a photograph in front of me throws me.
>
> When I teach, I teach both ways, and I show both ways, so that people can understand that one reverses as a complete front and back sign.  If the motion moves right, I write that direction for the signer, who is NOT me, so the motion matches the actual picture in front of me. 
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> Charles
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> From: Eda AMORim <[log in to unmask]>
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> Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 10:52:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Happy New Year to the SignWriting List!
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> Val,
> Segue a foto, qual você acha que fica mais claro para  o leitor?
> Penso que seja o primeiro sinal.
>
> Below the picture, what do you think is more clear to the reader?
> I think it is the first sign.

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> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:10:18 -0800
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Happy New Year to the SignWriting List!
> To: [log in to unmask]
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> SignWriting List
> December 30, 2010

> On Dec 30, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Eda AMORim wrote:

> > Olá Val,
> > Obrigada! Farei um tutorial explicando. Fiz no Adobe Illustrator.
> > Thank you! I'll make a tutorial. I made in Adobe Illustrator


> Olá Eda!
> Thank you for changing the card so fast - that is amazing!

> You are very skilled with Adobe Illustrator...I use the Adobe Creative Suite Design Premium (CS5) - and Illustrator is a part of that suite of programs, so we use some of the same software ;-)

> I am happy you are creating a tutorial. Let's talk about the third sign, for NEW? NOVO? I do not know the sign, but I should be able to read the movements, but I am not sure of the movement...

> Does it start with a circle shape for
>  the right hand, and then moves side and opens up in a five hand? Like this?
>

>
> You see, the little hollow circle that represents the opening of fingers (that appears at the end of your arrow in the third sign), could mean that you were opening to a variety of different handshapes...but if you write the finishing hand shape, it is a lot clearer for the reader... If you write that second position then it is not necessary to write the hollow dot that means to open the fingers...so is my sign for NOVO correct in LIBRAS? or have I misunderstood? I look forward to your answer ;-) Val ;-)