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I cannot read ANY of the messages imbedded in this message, either Valerie's or 
Capovilla's. What are they in.  I read .jpg, pdf, and others.

Charles



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From: fernando capovilla <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Fri, January 28, 2011 1:22:28 PM
Subject: Re: Editing SignWriting Documents Around the World


Wow, dear Valerie!
That is so great!
Thank you! Just what we needed ;-)
Please do keep on posting them!
Thank you!
Fernando

 
2011/1/28 Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]>

SignWriting List 
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>Signs in these examples are written in Brazilian Sign Language (LIBRAS) and are 
>from the book Novo Diet-Libras, Língua de Sinais Brasileira, Volume 1, 
>Universidade de São Paulo; http://www.signwriting.org/brazil/NovoDeitLibras.html
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>SignSpelling Guideline 5:
>Surface Symbols are NOT needed in daily writing... Do not use them for everyday 
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>Surface Symbols are Contact Symbols. They can only be used when two hands are 
>contacting each other or contacting another part of the body. They are used in 
>detailed writing, when trying to show the exact surface where the contact is 
>made...so occasionally Surface Symbols have value for detailed writing...but 
>readers read signs without them and the writing becomes easier to read if you do 
>not use them. 
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>Here is a GOOD example of the use of a Surface Symbol below. The two hands 
>contact each other, and the Surface Symbol shows that the right hand is on top 
>of the left hand's surface:
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>But for everyday writing, even in this correct case above, I would not write the 
>Surface Symbol, unless there is another sign in the language that is done on 
>another surface and could be confused with it.
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>Here is an INCORRECT use of a Surface Symbol:
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>In the sign above, which shows the right hand swinging forward and back under 
>the finger of the left hand, the two hands do not touch. There is no contact, so 
>it cannot use a Surface Symbol. The writer was trying to show that the right 
>hand is placed "under" the left hand, but that could easily be read without the 
>Surface Symbol... This sign is illustrated on page 359 of Novo-Diet-Libras, 
>showing no contact.
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>So here is how I would write the sign for BALANÇO (2):
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>More examples of incorrect use of Surface Symbols will be listed next 
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>Learn more about Surface Symbols
>http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less028.html
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>Val ;-)
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>Valerie Sutton
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