You are amazing! Thank you so much, you've eliminated a huge worry I had about using new versions of SignWriting. Thank you! -Alan On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 01:03:00PM -0500, Steve Slevinski wrote: > Hi Alan, > > I updated the ISWA 2010 conversion for the BSW 3 strings you are using. > Use Online: http://www.signbank.org/iswa_dev/convert/ > Download: http://www.signbank.org/iswa_dev/convert.zip > > The conversion package requires a PHP configured web server. > > I was able to convert and verify the test string you sent. > > On 5/3/11 3:57 PM, Alan Post wrote: > >0fb15a38d39a47a4c71c538c3934854b920638c3924884d30fd1c538c39315a38d39a20638c392 > > To convert the BSW 3 string to the ASCII Markup of Formal SignWriting, > use the following page: > http://www.signbank.org/iswa_dev/convert/cksw.php > > The conversion page will output the ASCII markup. You can verify the > markup with the import page of SignPuddle 1.6 beta. > http://signbank.org/signpuddle1.6/import.php?ui=1&sgn=4 > > If the import process was successful, press the Data Format button for > the preliminary Unicode and visualization. > > The rest of this email steps through the conversion. > > Here's the technical details of how the conversion works for your > string, using groups of 3 digits. > 0fb15a38d39a47a4c71c538c3934854b920638c3924884d30fd1c538c39315a38d39a20638c392 > > Your string contains 2 parts. A spatial arrangement: > 0fb 15a38d39a 47a4c7 1c538c393 4854b9 20638c392 4884d3 > > Second part is a temporal order. > 0fd 1c538c393 15a38d39a 20638c392 > > In Formal SignWriting, the temporal order comes first. Instead of using > a character code, the temporal prefix uses the ASCII letter "A". A > temporal order is just a list of ordered symbols. > > In Formal SignWriting, symbols are refered to with symbol keys in the > form of "S" followed by 3 digits for the base character and 2 digits for > the position. The first digit of the position represents the fill and > the second digit of the position represents the rotation. > > Your string identifies 3 symbols. Each symbol is identified with 9 digits. > > The string 1c538c393 becomes key S1c501. > The string 15a38d39a becomes key S15a18. > The string 20638c392 becomes key 20600. > > Considering the symbol key "S15a18", the base in hexadecimal is "15a". > http://www.signbank.org/iswa/15a/15a_bs.html > > The position is "18" in hex. The position, fill, and rotation all start > from 1, so remember to add 1 to the hexadecimal to decimal conversion. > http://easycalculation.com/hex-converter.php > > The position is 25, the fill is 2 and the rotation is 9. > > If we look again at the temporal order in the new ASCII markup, we have: > A S1c501 S15a18 S20600 > > Preliminary Unicode uses 3 characters to identify a symbol. > A 𝣅𝪡 𝡚𝪛𝪨 𝤆 > > If a font was working, these character sequences would be replaced with > the appropriate symbol image. > A > > This is the visualization for the temporal order to your sign. We call > it the SignSpelling Sequence. It is used for sorting. > > Just as we replace the sequence character with "A", we also replace the > sign box lane markers with ASCII characters "L, M, R" for left lane, > middle lane, and right lane. > > If we return to the spatial arrangement of your string with updated lane > marker and symbol keys: > M S15a18 47a4c7 S1c501 4854b9 S20600 4884d3 > > One of the last parts to convert are the coordinates. Your string has > the following coordinates: > 47a4c7 > 4854b9 > 4884d3 > > These coordinates use 3 hexadecimal digits per number. In your string, > each number starts with a 4. The first coordinate in your string is ( > "47a","4c7") which is the top-left of the symbol. When recentered for > zero, the coordinate resolves to (-18,-5). > > Formal SignWriting does not use coordinate characters, but a string > representation. Negative numbers use the letter "n" as a prefix. > Numbers are combined with the letter "x". The coordinates (-18,-5) would > use the string "n18xn5". > > If we put it all together, the Formal SignWriting string for your sign is: > AS1c501S15a18S20600M18x18S15a18n18xn5S1c501n7xn19S20600n4x7 > > With Preliminary Unicode, the string becomes: > A𝣅𝪡𝡚𝪛𝪨𝤆M18x18𝡚𝪛𝪨n18xn5𝣅𝪡n7xn19𝤆n4x7 > > Once a font is installed, the data can be seen as: > A M18x18 n18xn5 n7xn19 n4x7 > > It's still complicated, but much easier to explain. The temporal > sequence starts the string. This optional prefix sorts the signs. > > The sign is in the middle lane. The first coordinate of "18x18" is the > new maximum coordinate for the sign - a preprocessed value based on > (0,0) as the center of the sign. This new coordinate makes layout easy > and fast. Using the "padding-left" attribute of CSS, sign layout is as > simple as addition and subtraction. > > Regards, > -Steve -- .i ma'a lo bradi ku penmi gi'e du