I am interested to read this story. Can you give the link?
SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:[log in to unmask]U] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton
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May 18, 2011
Thank you, Gerard, for this blog post about the Polish Sign Language addition that is written in SignWriting, in the Polish Wiktionary... I love the story too!
Words and what blog
On May 18, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
I love the story so much ...
2011/5/10 Olaf Matyja <[log in to unmask]>
I'm happy to inform that
inside the Polish edition of the Wiktionary,
a Polish Sign Language section has been created. Over 1600 dictionary
entries were enhanced by Polish Sign Language translations in
SignWriting notation. In fact it is an import of the brillant work
primarily by Lucyna Długołęcka, acquired from the Polish SignPuddle.
The sings have been uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons repository,
which makes them available in all language editions of Wikipedia,
Wikibooks, and other Wikimedia Foundation projects.
URL of the dictionary:
An example of the translation: http://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/minuta#transl
Uploaded signs: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Polish_SignWriting
Unfortunately the pictures are still in bitmap format, because SVG
versions were not available a few months ago.
Entries sometimes lack a bit of formatting as well (for example here:
A new look has been discussed:
however the entries haven't been converted yet. But it's a matter of
time, I believe...
From: Valerie Sutton [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 1:23 AM
To: Olaf Matyja
Cc: Valerie Sutton; Steve Slevinski
Subject: Re: SignWriting in Wiktionary
Hello Olaf -
Thank you for this message. I am happy you like SignWriting ;-)
And of course you are most welcome to use SignWriting freely. You have
my full permission to copy and use any information on our SignWriting
web sites...just give the web sites and the writers credit, that's
Regarding licenses in general:
1. The individual SignWriting symbols, for software developers, are
under the free OFL License by SIL:
OFL SIL License
2. Our software, such as the SignWriting Image Server (SWIS) is under
the GPL License:
SWIS - Open Standards of SignWriting
I have included Steve Slevinski in this email if you would like to
discuss it with him...Steve also developed the SignWriting MediaWiki
Plugin, which makes the SignWriting Wiki possible:
3. But regarding the Polish Sign Language entries in the free and open
SignPuddle Online, they were written freely by Polish signers, and you
or anyone are welcome to copy and paste the written signs into your
sites - of course giving SignPuddle.org, SignWriting.org and any
writers of the Polish signs credit would be wonderful...I can put you
in touch with the Polish signers who entered the signs if you wish -
4. For images from our sites, we have used both of these licenses in
the past depending on the situation:
CC-BY 3.0, CC-BY-SA 3.0
The terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported
License are fine with me for the content of the Polish SignPuddle
Go right ahead - it is good for SignWriting and for all those who use
Polish Sign Language.
One request - you will notice in the "source" field under each entry
in SignPuddle, many entries were written by Lucyna Dlugolecka from
Warsaw. Lucyna is Deaf. Could you somewhere give credit to Lucyna, and
point them to this web area:
SignWriting in Poland
Many thanks - and keep us informed - I would like to link our sites to
plus if you need help with transferring all the signs etc, Steve is
the one to talk to about the technical transfer... and also about any
other details about licenses...
Thanks for your interest and we look forward to seeing SignWriting on
your site -
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On Aug 8, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Olaf Matyja wrote:
> I really like the SignWriting idea. It's just wonderful. I am preparing for
> building a dictionary of the Polish Sign Language, as a part of the Polish
> Wiktionary (http://pl.wiktionary.org). I would be happy to include
> information about signwriting as well. Is it legally possible to copy images
> of signs taken from your site?
> I would upload the images to the Wikimedia Commons
> (http://commons.wikimedia.org), which requires one of the following
> licenses: PD, GFDL 1.3, CC-BY 3.0, CC-BY-SA 3.0, FAL 1.3. Normally we ask
> permission for material to be used under the terms of the Creative Commons
> Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License. This means that although you
> retain the copyright and authorship of the work, you are granting permission
> for all others (not just Wiktionary) to use, copy, and share your materials
> freely - and even potentially use them commercially - so long as they do not
> try to claim the copyright themselves, nor prevent others from using or
> copying them freely.
> So, may I use the content of the Polish SignPuddle dictionary
> (http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/index.php?ui=7&sgn=19 ) under
> CC-BY-SA 3.0 license?
> Yours sincerely,
> Olaf Matyja
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