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Hello Adam.

Thanks for reply.
I think, yes think way how to write the "square".
Do you think there is a way to simplify this writing? I am not sure. Maybe
Val would know?
If not, I am happy with this writing.

Honza

On 5 September 2011 16:26, Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Sorry it took me so long to reply to this, Honza.
>
> It looks like you have the writer's preference on the FIRST and FOURTH
> signs. ;-)
>
> With the THIRD, I personally don't use the forward-down arrows because it
> doesn't really have affect in ASL that much. If you feel it does, then use
> it. :-)
>
> The SECOND and FIFTH sign is what really interests me and why it has taken
> me so long to reply. I saw them as the same sign, but you said they aren't
> and pointed out how. Now I see the "square" and "triangle" difference. I
> have been wondering how to write them so they aren't the same. I have made
> another attempt with the SECOND sign. It is written with focus on the
> details. From there you can decide where to simplify the writing without
> losing too much information.
>
>
>
> Now for your question about embedding videos in SignPuddle. Do you have
> your video hosted on a site like YouTube? From there you can embed your
> video with the embed code that they give you in the "Video Markup" box of
> "Write Words"
>
> Adam
>
> On Aug 31, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Honza wrote:
>
> Hello Val and Adam,
>
> thanks for your opinion.
> FIRST sign can be touch-touch or brush.
>
> SECOND and FIFTH sign are not the same! SECOND is "square" and FIFTH is
> "triangle".
> I think that SECOND is correct in "my" writing and FIFTH is correct in
> Adam's writing.
>
> THIRD mean "there is". Direction of movement is forward-down (like airplane
> landing).
>
> FOURTH means "various". Yes there is a thrill. Direction can be to the side
> or side-down.
>
> Thanks for your answers.
>
> Honza
> PS: I didn't know about embed video in SignPuddle.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 25 July 2011 04:33
> Subject: Re: CZECH SIGN LANGUAGE Video Editing Request
> To: "SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages" <
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> Cc: Honza <[log in to unmask]>
>
>
> SignWriting List
> July 24, 2011
>
> Hello Honza and Adam -
> Thanks to you both for your writing of this video, in SignWriting:
>
> Czech Sign Language video, MP4 format
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11142797/D_vyplnovani.m4v
>
> I have placed your two SignWritten versions side by side in the attached
> diagram. It is fun to look at the differences:
>
>
>
> Honza -
>
> You asked about the first, third and fifth signs...
>
> FIRST SIGN: In your writing, it is a Touch-Touch. Adam saw it as a Rub.
> When I looked at the video I saw a BRUSH.
>
>
>
> SECOND SIGN: Your two signs are very similarly written. Adam wrote the
> second hand position, which is a little safer. Most people will read it well
> if they see the second hand position. So I would suggest writing the second
> position. The Finger Movement symbol is fine if there is a position it
> relates to...
>
> THIRD SIGN: I confess the third sign was very fast and a little hard for me
> to see, but I can see you both wrote trilled alternating fingers and it
> seems to be a trill and the only question is what direction is the hand
> going... I guess I would have written it going down, but if you know the
> language, Honza, and it feels like forward to you then of course write it
> forward. Perhaps it is both forward and down in a diagonal?
>
> FIFTH SIGN: I would write it like Adam wrote it. Do you have a specific
> question about this sign?
>
> Did you know that you can embed the video in SignPuddle? SignPuddle 1.6 has
> a new area for placing the embed code for videos so they show up in
> SignPuddle. Would you like to place your video in SignPuddle?
>
> Thank you for sharing with us, Honza - write to the List to ask more
> questions -
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
>
> -------------------------------
>
>
> SignWriting List
> July 24, 2011
>
> On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:10 AM, Honza wrote:
>
> Hi Val,
>
> We wonder how to write some signs from this movie:
>
> Click on one of these links to view the movie:
>
> Czech Sign Language video, MP4 format
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11142797/D_vyplnovani.m4v
>
> Czech Sign Language video, FLV format
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11142797/D_vyplnovani.flv
>
>
> Here is our SignWriting of this video, written in SignPuddle:
>
> You can see how we wrote this video here:
> http://www.signbank.org/SignPuddle1.5/searchword.php?ui=6&sgn=52&sid=1942
>
> But we are not sure about how to write the first, third and fifth sign..
>
> Can you help?
>
> thanks
> Honza
>
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>
> Val ;-)
>
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