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On 20/10/2011 8:59 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
> SignWriting List
> October 20, 2011
>
> Hello Andre!
> I am glad you can work with the new SignWriter Studio. I plan to use 
> the program, coordinating it will SignPuddle 1.6 online and with the 
> PersonalPuddle 1.6 later...
>
> In SignWriter Studio, you can open the SignEditor for a sign in the 
> dictionary, by clicking on the sign you want in the dictionary, and it 
> becomes blue (for people who are not blind)...it becomes highlighted 
> when you click on the sign in the dictionary. Can you see it highlighted?
>
> Then, double-click with your mouse on the highlighted sign, and it 
> takes a minute and then it opens a second window for the SignEditor 
> (with that one sign in it, so you can edit it) -
>
> Once you are in the SignEditor, here is what to do:
>
> 1. There is a list of symbols to the left sidebar of the SignEditor 
> Window.
>
> 2. Click on the All Tab at the top of the left sidebar.
>
> 3. A listing of all the seven SignWriting symbol categories will 
> appear under the ALL tab.
>
> 4. There are two ways to see more symbols, under each category...you 
> can click on the tiny PLUS symbol that is to the left of each symbol, 
> OR you can double-click on the symbol itself and all the 
> sub-categories will be listed for you.
>
> 5. Let us imagine you double-clicked on the Hand category, and you now 
> have a listing of all of the Hand symbols groups. Click on the Plus 
> symbol next to a Group Symbol, or double-click on the Group Symbol, 
> and it will give you a listing of all of the symbols in that group.
>
> 6. Once you highlight the Hand symbol you want, the symbol will appear 
> in another little box at the top in the middle section of the 
> SignEditor. Then you can click on buttons to change the Palm Facing 
> color. You can click on arrows to change the Palm Facing rotation and 
> whether it is parallel to the Wall or Floor. Choose a double-stemmed 
> arrow to place the symbol parallel with the Wall or choose a 
> single-stemmed arrow to place the symbol parallel with the Floor. Once 
> the symbol changes as you want it, you can drag it to the SignBox and 
> manipulate the symbol further.
>
> Jonathan - one point I need to make. Unfortunately, symbols are not 
> "Right" or "Left". SignWriting symbols can be either "Right" or "Left" 
> depending on the choice of the writer - Can you replace the words 
> "Right" and "Left" with "Clockwise" and "Counter-Clockwise" or another 
> two words that will feel good to you? - Like - CW and CCW, or 
> "Regular" and "Mirror" or "Flop" - or whatever term feels good for you 
> - Some people use numbers like 0 and the flop of that in numbers ;-)
Val,
     I know that the symbols are right handed or left handed but I was 
hoping my way of displaying them would list all of the symbols used for 
the right hand and those that could be used as right hand under right 
hand.  The same all those that are used for the left hand and those that 
could be used for the left hand under left hand.  You will see that some 
symbols appear under both settings.
     Can you show me, as I have it set up now, a symbol that is listed 
under right hand but would definitely would not be used for a right 
hand?  Or a symbol under left hand that is not listed under right hand 
and could be used to write a right hand?
     I know you'll probably prove me wrong, but at least I'll be 
convinced ;-)

Thanks

Jonathan

>
> Many thanks!
>
> Val ;-)
>
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> On Oct 20, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:
>
>> *Hi Jonathan, Val and everyone,*
>> **
>> *    I follow your instructions.  It works.  But, I tried to click 
>> double on signwriting (African) and did not get SignWriter Editor.*
>> **
>> *    Val, did you get SignWriter Editor?*
>> **
>> *    Jonathan, I hardly read small letters and smal signwritings 
>> because I am blind.  I need a font size from 8 to 72 (Microsoft 
>> Word) and a sign size (SignPudlle 1.6).*
>> **
>> *    Regards,*
>> **
>> *    André*
>>
>>     **
>>         J----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* Jonathan <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>     *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>     <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>     *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:48 PM
>>     *Subject:* Re: SignWriter Studio Beta 5.2!!
>>     **********
>>
>>
>>     On 19/10/2011 9:31 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>>>     SignWriting List
>>>     October 19, 2011
>>>     ****
>>>     Thank you Jonathan, Bill and Andre for posting and testing
>>>     SignWriter Studio Beta 5.2.
>>>     ****
>>>     I just downloaded it and opened it fine.  But I am still lost as
>>>     to how to find actual signs written in SignWriting in the Sample
>>>     file. It tells me to open another module and then when I do it
>>>     either tells me that that module is not working yet or there are
>>>     no signs written there - I realize this seems like a silly
>>>     problem because I should know better - I have seen the program
>>>     working well before and I really loved it, so I have great hopes
>>>     we can reach that stage again -
>>     Hi Val,
>>         Try this.
>>
>>       A sample one comes with the download.  From the menu select
>>     "Open SignWriter Studio File". Look in the folder you installed
>>     the software.  Choose the file Sample.SWS.   Go to
>>     Modules/Dictionary in the menu.  Type in a word or part of a word
>>     to search in the dictionary in the Gloss Search text box.  If you
>>     leave it blank and press enter, you will get a full list of
>>     everything in the dictionary.  If you double click on a sign
>>     writing you will get the SignWriter Editor.
>>
>>     I hope this helps.  I would also love to Skype with if you latter.
>>
>>     Jonathan
>>
>>>
>>>     I suggest, Jonathan, that we make a Skype appointment and
>>>     together you will teach me what to do step by step and that way
>>>     you will get specific feedback.
>>>
>>>     Today the electric company in my area claims they will turn off
>>>     our electricity for 6 hours for maintenance (smile ;-) so today
>>>     is not a good day - but write to me privately and we will find a
>>>     time and get SignWriter Studio working -
>>>
>>>     And Bill and Andre a special appreciation to both of you - I
>>>     know how busy you are - thank you for your efforts -
>>>
>>>     Val ;-)
>>>
>>>     -------
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Oct 19, 2011, at 6:53 AM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:
>>>
>>>>     *Hi Jonathan and everyone,*
>>>>     **
>>>>     *    I did download.  Yesterday, I emailed the same message
>>>>     below to you.*
>>>>
>>>>         **
>>>>         *    Best regards,*
>>>>         **
>>>>         *    André*
>>>>         **
>>>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>>>         *From:* Jonathan <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>         *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>>         <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>         *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:08 AM
>>>>         *Subject:* Re: SignWriter Studio Beta 5.2!!
>>>>         **************
>>>>         Hi,
>>>>             My mistake.
>>>>
>>>>         the correct link is
>>>>         http://www.signwriterstudio.com/download/SignWriter%20Studio%20Beta%200.0.5.2.exe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Sorry
>>>>
>>>>         Jonathan
>>>>         On 18/10/2011 2:28 PM, Bill Reese wrote:
>>>>>         I'm not exactly sure but I think that download link that
>>>>>         Jonathan gave is for an older beta.  I've emailed Jonathan
>>>>>         privately about it.  It may be best to wait and see what
>>>>>         he says.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 10/18/2011 12:34 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>>>>>>         SignWriting List
>>>>>>         October 18, 2011
>>>>>>         ******
>>>>>>         Hi Andre and Jonathan -
>>>>>>         ******
>>>>>>         Thank you, Jonathan, for giving us another chance to test
>>>>>>         SignWriter Studio - and I look forward to testing it
>>>>>>         later today if possible -
>>>>>>         ******
>>>>>>         And thank you, Andre, for testing it!
>>>>>>         ******
>>>>>>         I remember having similar experiences to what Andre
>>>>>>         experienced - Do you have a sample dictionary that really
>>>>>>         shows us signs already written, in SignWriter Studio,
>>>>>>         Jonathan?
>>>>>>         ******
>>>>>>         Could you write us exact instructions as to what to do
>>>>>>         when we open the program?
>>>>>>         ******
>>>>>>         I know you already have a beautiful Help section and I
>>>>>>         did read that, but I could not find a sample dictionary
>>>>>>         or editor that really showed me some signs already
>>>>>>         written for us -
>>>>>>         ******
>>>>>>         I will write again when I test it this evening -
>>>>>>         ******
>>>>>>         Val ;-)
>>>>>>         ******
>>>>>>         ******
>>>>>>         --------
>>>>>>         ******
>>>>>>         ******
>>>>>>         ******
>>>>>>         On Oct 18, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         *Hi Jonathan and everyone,*
>>>>>>>         **
>>>>>>>         *    In SignWriter Studio, I clicked on "Open SignWriter
>>>>>>>         file" from the menu select.  There are DN4 and Sample
>>>>>>>         SWS.  I chose the file "Sample SWS".  I read "There are
>>>>>>>         currently no entries in this file. To continue, choose
>>>>>>>         an option from the module menu".  I clicked on OK. 
>>>>>>>         There are dictionary, document and signlists from the
>>>>>>>         module menu.  I chose a dictionary.  I read "Unhanded
>>>>>>>         exception has occured in your application.  If you click
>>>>>>>         Continue, the application will ignore this error and
>>>>>>>         attempt to continue.  If you click Quit, the application
>>>>>>>         will close immediately".  I clicked Continue.  In
>>>>>>>         SignWriter Studio Dictionary,  I cannot see a sign image
>>>>>>>         or symbols.  I tried to click double on signwriting (I
>>>>>>>         couldn't find it), I did not get the SignWriter Studio
>>>>>>>         Editor.*
>>>>>>>         **
>>>>>>>         *    Best regards,*
>>>>>>>         **
>>>>>>>         *    André*
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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