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Curious on this search example that I the translation of the Bible shows "harvest" at least three times, yet that sign for harvest is not currently in the ASL puddle, except an entry that I put in, using a C sign and not the open wedge. Is there a way now to clip signs out of the Bible passage and put them into the ASL signpuddle? 

Charles Butler

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--- On Wed, 10/12/11, Steve Slevinski <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: Steve Slevinski <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Advanced searching for symbols and their approximate locations
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2011, 12:00 PM


  

    
  
  
    Hi list,

    

    I've added a new feature to SignPuddle: advanced symbol searching. 
    It is flexible and it is fast.  It searches both individual signs
    and sign texts. There are 5 new possible searches you can perform: 4
    available for sign entries, and a separate custom search.

    

    The four sign entry searches

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    ==Search Location - Exact==

    Find signs that are exactly the same.  Same symbols, same exact
    position.  

    

    ==Search Location - Approximate==

    Find signs that are approximately the same.  Same exact symbols,
    approximate locations.  The search location for each symbol uses a
    range of values.  These values are based on the symbol position
    relative to the sign's center.

    

    ==Search Symbols - Exact==

    Find signs that have the exact same symbols.  Location is ignored.

    

    ==Search Symbols - Base==

    Find signs that contain the same base symbols.  Fills and rotations
    are ignored.

    

    

    For sign entries, these 4 search links are available.  Let's
    consider the entry for "season" in ASL:

    http://signbank.org/sp16/canvas.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=1309

    

    

    Staying in the ASL dictionary puddle, a search for an exact sign
    match, will only find the entry for season.

http://signbank.org/sp16/searchquery.php?ui=1&sgn=4&ksw=M16x24S1fb20n1xn23S15a18n15xn24S2e7001xn1

    

    Searching for approximate locations will find 2 entries:

http://signbank.org/sp16/searchquery.php?ui=1&sgn=4&qsearch=QS1fb20499x477S15a18485x476S2e700501x499

    

    Searching for the exact same symbols, ignoring location, will still
    only find 2 entries:

http://signbank.org/sp16/searchquery.php?ui=1&sgn=4&qsearch=QS15a18uuuxuuuS1fb20uuuxuuuS2e700uuuxuuu

    

    Searching for the base symbols, ignoring location, will find 5
    different entries:

http://signbank.org/sp16/searchquery.php?ui=1&sgn=4&qsearch=QS15auuuuuxuuuS1fbuuuuuxuuuS2e7uuuuuxuuu

    

    

    If we return to "season" and select the Search Location -
    Approximate link, we are given the option to search a different
    puddle:

http://signbank.org/sp16/signsearch.php?ui=1&sgn=4&qsearch=QS1fb20499x477S15a18485x476S2e700501x499

    

    If we select the ASL Bible puddle ,  we
    will find 6 different signs that look very similar to the sign for
    "season", but they have different strings.  One of the entries was
    used 38 times, the other entries were only used once each.  If we
    click on the sign that was used 38 times, we will view all of the
    signs or sign texts that used this exact sign:

http://signbank.org/sp16/searchquery.php?ui=1&sgn=28&ksw=M16x24S1fb20n1xn23S15a18n15xn24S2e7001xn1

    

    This last page takes a few seconds to load due to all of the column
    images that are downloading.

    

    

    Custom Symbol Search

    -------------------

    The 5th search is the revamped "Search by Symbols".

    

    

    The first thing you'll notice is the new cross-hairs in the center. 
    These are used to specify the position of each symbol.  Different
    positions have different results.

    

    

    Searching for the index above the center:

http://signbank.org/sp16/searchquery.php?ui=1&sgn=4&qsearch=QS10000493x459

    

    

    Searching for the index below the center:

http://signbank.org/sp16/searchquery.php?ui=1&sgn=4&qsearch=QS10000489x506

    

    

    

    You can search for more than 1 symbol.  Each symbol can have 1 of 4
    different types of symbol match.  The default for each symbol is the
    "Exact Match", which matches the base, fill, and rotation.  The "Any
    Match" matches the symbol base only.  The "Fill Match" will match
    the fill (palm facing), but ignore the rotation.  The "Rotation
    Match" will match the exact rotation,but ignore the fill.

    

    

    Reflections

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    Searching was one of the last barriers to being able to efficiently
    process the SignWriting script.  This new searching technique uses
    relatively simple regular expressions.  It is easy to code and fast
    to execute.  No matter the programming language or the device, real
    searching of the SignWriting script is now a reality.

    

    Most importantly, this technique does not require artificial
    restrictions on the SignWriting script.

    

    Regards,

    -Steve