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This is really great,

CONGRATULATIONS

Ingvild 


Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:37:21 -0700
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Subject: Re: Advanced searching for symbols and their approximate locations
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Wow, thanks, and God bless you. This is a great tool.
 R. H.  Dettloff 

From: Steve Slevinski <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Advanced searching for symbols and their approximate locations



  

    
  
  
    Hi Val,

    

    

    On 10/12/11 11:48 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:

    
      Can we say now, that the "Search by Symbols" feature in
        SignPuddle 1.6, allows us to:
      

      
      1. search for all the signs that use a specific SignWriting
        symbol in SignMaker entries (dictionary entries) and SignText
        entries (literature entries)
      

      
      2. search for combinations of symbols
      

      
      3. search for symbols combined with location
      

      
      4. search for exact SignSpellings
      

      
    
    Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

    

    
      If this is all true, then we can finally say that searches
        can be conducted on SignWriting literature documents, which is
        what linguists have been asking for, for years -
    
    Yes, we can say that real search is possible with SignWriting
    documents.  

    

    In 2004, there was a paper presented at Lisbon by Antonio Carlos da
    Rocha Costa, Gracaliz Pereira Dimuro, and Juliano Baldez de
    Freitas.  The paper was titled "A SIGN MATCHING TECHNIQUE TO SUPPORT
    SEARCHES IN SIGN LANGUAGE TEXTS".  

http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs3/sw0204-Sign-Processing-Brazil.pdf

    

    Although, not an implementation of their design, the advanced search
    now available in SignPuddle addresses the same issues.

    

    Guylhem Aznar discussed this same issue.  He called the slight
    symbol positioning differences between signs "Intra-personal
    variation".  He correctly states that:

    Such near-imperceptible variations in the fine
        positioning are due to the human manual positioning of the
        symbols. It is nearly impossible for two SW signs, even while
        using the same set of symbols, to share the exact position for
        every symbol on the sign canvas : the relative position of the
        symbols to the center of the sign changes.

    
    He suggested that these variations should be prevented.  I've gone
    the opposite way and embraced the existence of slight variations. 
    The signs in SignPuddle Online demonstrate the variability of the
    SignWriting script.  The advanced searching of SignPuddle show that
    these variations are not a problem.

    

    
      I would like to announce this to the Sign Language Linguist
        LIst (SLLING) because there are several linguists who have
        requested this feature before...
      

      
    
    Yes, please do.  I am very proud of the new search, both in terms of
    flexibility and speed.

    

    

    
      But I also understand that the "Search by Symbol Frequency"
        feature does not search on literature in SignText yet - it is
        only the "Search by Symbols" feature that can do that so far, is
        that right?
      

      
    
    So far, symbol frequency does not include sign texts.  The option
    will be available soon.

    

    Regards,

    -Steve