November 17, 2011
Thank you for this work…I am amazed and excited about it. Bill…if it works please tell us!
On Nov 16, 2011, at 9:33 PM, Bill Reese wrote:
What a coincidence, I just tried your old app again a couple of days
ago and it still didn't work - pressing on the buttons didn't do
anything. I uninstalled it from my phone. I hope your new one
works this time.
On 11/16/2011 11:20 PM, Schuyler Duveen wrote:
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Thanks everyone for sending feedback and issues back in
September. I just started a new job, so I've been a little
distracted, but finally was able to come back around to this
project. A new version is at the same URL:
You can also just download it from the Android Market by searching
It's still a little slow on older devices, but please let me know
if something doesn't work. It's basically a functional dictionary
I'm now working on a composer, which will let people upload signs
which will then get added to the dictionary (after some
moderation). After an issue or two is resolved, it will also be
an iPhone app and a website with the same functionality.
If you want to preview the composer functionality, go to the About
page and scroll ALL the way down, and then click the "enable
experimental mode" link. Nothing will happen, but if you exit and
re-enter the app, you'll suddenly have a 'Add new sign' option and
you can edit any sign in the dictionary.
One thing I was trying to do is use the compose context as a kind
of intro to sign writing -- by indexing common symbols. A few of
the sign lists in the help/compose section have been selected by
looking for the most common elements used in the dictionary. But
the general approach is not to be comprehensive with all the
shapes -- instead having a short but useful list. I'd love
feedback on important hand-shapes that are not included or
anything that's mislabeled.
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On 09/06/2011 11:02 AM, Schuyler Duveen wrote:
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I'm new to the community. I became interested in learning sign
language early this year, and discovered Sign Writing through
some web searches. Recently, I also became interested in
learning about mobile application development, and SignWriting
seemed like a great way to store a large ASL dictionary offline
(so I can get it on the subway and without downloading a large
video or something) and SignPuddle's export made it possible to
start with a large database of signs.
This is still not-even-alpha software -- lots of bugs, and
debugging data exposed, but for those of you with Android phones
you should be able to install this .apk file:
(Follow these instructions:
and then visit the above link from your phone. After install,
read the About page first.)
Right now, it's just a dictionary with look-up, but I hope
eventually to add reverse-lookup, a sign composer (so people can
add to the dictionary easily), and support for arbitrary
dictionaries (via spml files?).
I'd also like to open-source license it, but because I'd like
this app to be available on the android and iphone markets, I
need to figure out what the best license is for such things
(since they're pretty antagonistic toward open-source apps).
In the meantime, this is also just a hello. SignWriting was
really easy to learn, and the infrastructure that all of you
have built is amazing.