In reading through Steven's PDF, I am wondering at Sign Spelling. In going through the Brazilian dictionary, I have been trying to put a specified order on the signs that are there for dictionary use, precisely because the finished sign has all things moving at once, a person could start at any point in reading the cluster and produce the sign. So, for me, for a given sign
1) Right hand shape
2) Right hand fill
3) Right hand rotation
4) Right hand movement
5) Right hand contact with body
6) Right hand contact with head (no defined order of location of touch)
7) Facial expression (no specific order in which facial expression)
8) Body dynamics (no current bias on right or left shoulders, for example)
Between 6 & 7 would be all left handed signs, or if the right hand is not being used at all, it would start there.
So, the ASL word for "think" (right hand index pointed at and touching right temple twice" would come before the ASL word for "my" (right palm, facing reader, 45 degree rotation to left, touching chest"). 
Essentially, it is closely matching to the order of the glyphs in the dictionary, but sometimes a handshape would "feel" like it ought to be in a different place in the Groups.  Is an "E" a 4 group or a 5 group is an historical question. 
Charles Butler
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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: Initial draft of the Modern SignWriting specification

SignWriting List
February 22, 2012

Hello Steve!
This is the ultimate birthday gift - a new foundation for future software for SignWriting - Thank you for your new "Modern SignWriting" specifications for software development, and thank you for the new SignWriting Image Server v3 (SWISv3).

I know these accomplishments lay the groundwork for the future SignPuddle 2… I look forward to testing SignPuddle 2 when the time is right...

Have a splendid day!

Val ;-)


On Feb 22, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Steve Slevinski wrote:

> Hi SignWriting List,
> Today, I completed the initial draft of the Modern SignWriting specification.  The document contains technical details and applications for the international SignPuddle data set.
> Table of Contents
> ===========
> 1. Stability
> 2. Historical Foundation
> 3. International Corpus
> 4. Mathematical Model
> 5. Symbol Set
> 6. Symbol Encoding
> 7. Script Layout
> 8. Text Encoding
> 9. Regular Searching Form
> 10. Variant Display Forms
> 11. Sorting Terminology
> 12. Spelling Normalization
> Project Page:
> Direct PDF link:
> Today, I also released an alpha version of the SignWriting Image Server v3.  It has been updated to be consistent with the MSW document and it covers all of the various sections of MSW with working and tested functions.  I have a bit more work before it is production ready, but I'm very pleased with what I have so far.
> Project Page:
> Regards,
> -Steve
> PS - Happy Birthday Val!!!