Er... No...      I use the SW-Edit.      Very hands, in the SW-Edit, is not actualized. --- Em dom, 25/3/12, Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> escreveu: De: Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> Assunto: Re: Eletrosfera Para: [log in to unmask] Data: Domingo, 25 de Março de 2012, 22:20 SignWriting List March 25, 2012 Yes, good point, Charles. The newer icons, in SignPuddle, have the double-lined circles now…. …but the old icons on our older web sites, have the older symbols because those icons were created with older software - so there is a lot to update. Thanks for pointing that out to me and I will try to get to updating the old icons... But this is my very point….If Yuri uses SignPuddle Online to create his new signs, this will help me and everyone, because he will be using the new symbols and plus, when we discuss SignSpellings we can all share together and visit the Brazilian SignPuddle and read Yuri's signs and we can share different ways to write -  So Yuri, have you used SignPuddle Online before? Val ;-) -------- On Mar 25, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Charles Butler wrote: Valerie, Looking in your clip below, the sign for SEARCH is using the old SW symbols not the double line arched arrow. Will this be updated soon?    Charles Butler [log in to unmask] 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. From: Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 11:38 AM Subject: Re: Looking for other teachers who teach bilingual documents to Deaf students SignWriting List March 25, 2012 On Mar 22, 2012, at 1:38 AM, MARIA GALEA wrote: Dear Valerie, when you do create a listing for Andre could you share it on the list - as I would like to include such information in my thesis - as I'm trying to figure out as much as possible how and by who SignWriting is being used- thanks ever so much! and good luck Andre with for your presentation.. Maria ------- Hello Maria! Yes, of course I will share everything with the List and with you… I know you are waiting for information, and I am slow to update my web sites, so let's start with searching our current SignWriting web site… I realize you probably know this already, but not everyone does… To search the SignWriting and Sutton web sites, click on the Search button at the top of our sites: See attached diagram… 1. Click on Search Button at top of site.  2. type in your search criteria  3. Click Search. 4. You will get a Google listing, with ads at the top, but under the ads, are links on all Sutton sites…and they usually list for pages and pages - sometimes 10 pages of Google listings - so there are some good links there you may not know about - try several different search words to see what you find - we have over 3000 web pages, so there is a lot to search - More soon -  Val ;-) ------ On Mar 22, 2012, at 1:38 AM, MARIA GALEA wrote: Dear Valerie, when you do create a listing for Andre could you share it on the list - as I would like to include such information in my thesis - as I'm trying to figure out as much as possible how and by who SignWriting is being used- thanks ever so much! and good luck Andre with for your presentation.. Maria SignWriting List March 21, 2012 Hello Charles and Andre - Yes. These are good examples, and also, I know of others too…Because some may not want their email address posted publicly on the List, I will contact some of them privately to see, and then get back to you, Andre, with their contact information… There are, as far as I know, classrooms that use Sign Languages with SignWriting, and spoken languages, in a bi-lingual manner, in several other schools - In the US in the past at the Albuquerque Public Schools in New Mexico (the program has closed, but the teachers may be available for presenting about their past program), and for several years in both French-speaking and Flemish-speaking Belgium and in Brazil there are specific classrooms that I recently learned about…new ones I never heard of before...and of course Stefan Woehrmann in Germany - Stefan's work is so amazing - and I understand that there is a new program starting in Slovenia, and Lucy has been teaching a program in Poland classrooms of Deaf children too - that is an exciting one - and deserves more attention….smile.. So I will get back to you, Andre, with a listing - at least of those I know about - and for all those who are teaching using SignWriting - please speak up and tell us about your projects here on the List - we all need your inspiration and information so we can move forward with our own programs - it is good to know about other projects - Have a great day - it is springtime here and the flowers are blooming - we need Stefan's camera to capture the beauty of the flowers on film ;-)) Val ;-) ----- On Mar 21, 2012, at 8:09 AM, Charles Butler wrote: The only teachers I know of are in Brazil. There they are using Brazilian sign language and spoken language every day to improve literacy skills in both languages. Give them the name of Prof. Fernando Capovilla at the University of Sao Paulo. Also Prof. Marianne Stumpf at the University of Florianapolis Santa Catarina (UFSC) Charles Butler [log in to unmask] 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. From: Gagnon et Thibeault <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:04 AM Subject: Looking for other teachers who teach bilingual documents to Deaf students  Hi everyone,       Centre Jules-Léger (a school for the deaf in Ottawa, Canada) will celebrate its 25th anniversary in May 2012.  The committee invited me to give a presentation.  During one hour,  i will talk about the bridge between a written LSQ (SW) and a written French.       I am looking for a teacher who would explain how to deal with bilingual documents (written sign language and  written spoken language), how to improve the biliteracy in both the spoken language and the signed language for Deaf students "EVERYDAY" (not sometimes).  Does anyone know names of the teacher?  Could the teacher speak English or French?    I know Stefan Woehrmann.  I am looking for other teachers.   Does anyone know James Kegl's email address?    Best regards,    André Val ;-) Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 SignWriting Read & Write Sign Languages http://www.SignWriting.org SignPuddle Online Write SignWriting in the Clouds! 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