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April 3, 2012

Hello Madson, Adam and everyone -

Yes, Adam is pointing out what I taught him, which is that the Surface Symbols (or Position Symbols) are used rarely, and most of the time, we can write the actual positioning of the hand symbols in such a way, that we can see that one hand is above, below, or in front of, or in back of the other… without using the Surface Symbols…

So if you can write the two hands visually, so the position is clear enough, like Adam has written attached, then the Surface Symbols are not even needed - I can see from Adam's diagrams which one is in front or behind the other…




Meanwhile, I am preparing a better explanation of these symbols now and will post it shortly -

Val ;-)

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On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Adam Frost wrote:

> So I'm confused as to which way the sign is. I have written two options (most likely how I would write them without the Surface Symbols).
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> Adam

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On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:

> SignWriting List
> March 3, 2012
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> Dear SW List Members -
> Below, pasted in this email, is the web page on Surface Symbols. As you can see, the date is March 4th, 2000, almost 12 years ago to the day!!
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> Surface Symbols
> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less028.html
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> And the Surface Symbols (I do not call them Position Symbols because that is the name of another group of symbols) are much older than the year 2000. They date back to 1978, in one of my first textbooks…
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> I will post a detailed explanation shortly. This summer, Adam will be staying with me. We will be working together on writing a book just on Movement Symbols, which includes all the Contact Symbols too. Surface Symbols are a part of the Contact Symbol group, so maybe we can teach this in better detail.
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> So here is the web page from year 2000:
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> Val ;-)
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> 
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Madson Barreto wrote:
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>> Hi, Adam,
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>> The hands are not Placed one above the other.
>> The right hand is behind the left hand in front of the other hand.
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>> I am referring Parkhurst (2010, pages 95 and 96). See attached.
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>> Madson Barreto
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