this is good topic (I am sorry for not reading all emails).
We use this mouth movement (as Adam shows in his video) in Czech Sign Language with sign that is used very often. Now I checked Czech Puddle and found that movement is not written there in this sign.
SignWrting ListJune 18, 2012These are attached videos, everyone - before, by accident, Adam's iPhone posted photos instead of the videos… In the attached videos, you can start the video by clicking on a tiny arrow at the bottom of each photo - it still looks like a photo but it is not - these are videos - (I find the new technologies amazing ;-)These attached videos show the mouth movements that Adam was writing...Val ;-)On Jun 18, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Adam Frost wrote:I realized what I was doing now. Sorry about that. This should work now.AdamOn Jun 18, 2012, at 10:18 AM, "Valerie Sutton" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
SignWriting ListJune 18, 2012On Jun 18, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:Of course there are other signs in sign languages that ask for mouth-movements and facial expressions that are not associated with spoken language but with mimic.Hi Stefan - Yes, this is why I think it would be wonderful if Rafaela could show us a video clip of the mouth movements, or perhaps Adam can show us through video how he interpreted the mouth and air movement for starting a motorcycle…Adam's sign has nothing to do with any spoken language, as you say above,but with "mimic"…I do not know the linguistic term for mouth movements that are connected with Deaf storytelling…but anyway, Adam showed me the mouth movement in person, and the lips vibrate and push air out…to the point where the saliva is almost spraying out of the mouth, showing the feeling of the sound of a motorcycle engine starting…but the mouth and lips never open - they remain touching each other -So we need to see a video ;-))Val ;-)