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Hi friends of SW,

 

well with the good old DOS program we could write vertical thanks to the Column-Maker – but it has been a little bit tricky and obviously there are not that many experts who can work with the Dos-Program and SignWriter Python and Dos-Box ...

 

So usually documents at that time had been written horizontal.

 

Thanks to the new Program DELEGS we are on the way to produce wonderful bilingual documents – right now writing horizontal for the reason to match spoken language with signed German – later to type translation of DGS ...   In the future the DELEGS-Editor will allow to decide between horizontal or vertical writing.

 

From my point of view it is no problem to switch between reading horizontal or vertical ..---  in order to support deaf students to improve literacy of spoken language – there is no better way than to write the horizontal way.  To write all these Mundbilder vertical would look weird ... ;-))  

 

Most of my documents are signed German and even DGS document are easy read if written horizontal as we do almost ever – except for SignPuddle –emails

 

 

The coming week Erika will visit our class and we will discuss this as well – big smile.

 

All the best

 

Stefan

 

 


Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Adam Frost
Gesendet: Samstag, 2. Juni 2012 01:58
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Betreff: Re: Vertical or Horizontal?

 

I think there are two reasons why you will find documents that are written horizontally. The first is that before SignPuddle, there was no way to write vertically. This is the case with the Brazil document that you were referring to which was written with an older program, SignWriter DOS. The second reason is the one that Steve talked about in the interview with Gerard on his blog. Here is the part where he mentions this:

In the latest SignPuddle, you can write from right to left. What is the advantage of this?

Horizontal SignWriting is primarily for writing translations between spoken and signed languages.

When SignWriting is used in schools, in bilingual education, writing horizontally is useful for translating spoken language texts into written sign languages, helping the Deaf student learn both languages. Since western spoken languages are written from left to right, placing the SignWriting text above the written spoken language sentences is a tool for bilingual reading and comparison. Although some grammar details are lost in Horizontal Writing, it offers other benefits as a bridge between languages.

Now with SignPuddle 2, writers can choose vertical and horizontal writing depending on their needs.

So basically the second reason is that people wanted to have written signs with spoken words to show both languages. Having said that, I think in most cases people prefer to write vertically when writing only in the various sign languages because it is best in showing the full grammatical usage that are used with sign languages. I hope that helped. ;-)

 

Adam

 

On Jun 1, 2012, at 4:20 PM, MARIA GALEA wrote:



Thank you Adam, Kim and Val!
I'm asking mainly because it is unclear to me who uses vertical and
horizontal. I can see that in Brazil they use horizontal ? Or maybe the
bible excerpts are old?

http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs5/sw0459-BRBible-Textos-Biblicos-LIBRAS.pdf

also Spanish sign language - there are stories in vertical writing here.

http://www.signwriting.org/library/children/


thanks everyone...look forward to more answers..
maria

SignWriting List

June 1, 2012

 

Hello Maria and everyone -

Perhaps you would be interested in reading Steve Slevinski's interview,

which mentions the different reasons for writing vertically and

horizontally. I can post excerpts about the differences in a later

message.

 

Towards a Wikipedia for signed languages

http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/06/01/towards-a-wikipedia-for-signed-languages/

 

 

Meanwhile, here is my survey:

 

1. American Sign Language (the best I can anyway) (or any other sign

language transcribed from video)

2. vertical

 

Thank you for this survey, Maria!

 

 

Val ;-)

 

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On Jun 1, 2012, at 1:01 PM, MARIA GALEA wrote:

 

Dear friends all over the globe,

Would really appreciate if you could reply to these two questions -

 

1. your sign language?

 

2. preference vertical or horizontal writing?

 

Just to lead the way, my ans would be

1. maltese sign language (LSM)

2. vertical

 

THANK YOU!

maria

 

 

 

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Val ;-)

 

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