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At my lab, we use glyph not for the whole sign, but just for a single unit of the ISWA, evy sign is composed by one or more glyphes 2012/9/15 Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]>: > I think that glyph, used in sign-symbol-sequence conveys a clearer idea of > the placement of the symbols than "symbol" alone. Coming from hieroglyphic > people associate it with human based symbols, not simply symbols like "&" > ampersand which convey a meaning in spoken language. If one downloads from > the SignPuddle without naming the sign, the word "glyph" is used for the > whole sign representation. > > It has been used in discussion for both the whole "sign" and the individual > parts of it as "more than one kind of symbol" together. So one has > handshapes, movement symbols, speed, prosody, but all of them together are > glyphs. > > Charles Butler > [log in to unmask] > 240-764-5748 > Clear writing moves business forward. > ________________________________ > From: MARIA GALEA <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:56 AM > Subject: Re: ISWA (2010) Detailed Location symbols > > Hi Claudia- > yes your answer is very good and I will cite you about Detailed Location, > since you have already analyzed it :) (i still have to February - so by > then, I will hopefully have read your whole thesis and then I will add the > exact citation and page number) - how exciting is your work! > > I am wondering whether to use the term 'symbol' or 'glyph' in my work - > can you explain why you chose 'glyph' rather than 'symbol'. I think it's > good that academics in a shared field use the same terminology, so if > there is good reason for your choice of the term 'glyph' I think I may > adopt it and say I adopted it from your work.. > > Thanks!! > Maria > > > >> hi Maria, >> do you mean symbols used to indicate the exact location of a hand or a >> touch? >> As I know, no one use them! The reason (as I say in my thesis) is that >> they >> seems "alien" in a SW figure... Imagine that you want to write a sign with >> a detailed location symbols. You have to write your sign, and then add in >> a >> corner one of those "detailed location symbols": they don't have the same >> aspect of other glyphs, they don't have the same size, so you can't use >> them as a base to put others glyphes like configuration or mouvement... >> they are like "a punch in a eye" (tipical italian expression) and they >> broke the analogical relation between signing space and SW space. >> By the way, on my point of view, they are also useless. Infact, SW have >> the >> caracteristic to have a perfect indication of the location that is not >> "explicit" but is "implicit" (Garcia, from Univ.Paris8, call this >> "emplacement en creux"), given by the relative location of the others >> glyphes. When the implicit location is not enough, users put more >> informations as he position of arms or shoulders. >> I hope I gave you a satisfying (and understandable) answer >> Claudia >> >> >> >> >> 2012/9/15 MARIA GALEA <[log in to unmask]> >> >>> Dear all, >>> I'm searching for work, in the Dictionary Puddles, or elsewhere - where >>> the researcher/writer has chosen to use detailed location symbols. Maybe >>> in a printed dictionary or some sort? >>> >>> Would appreciate if you could direct me to some work that uses ISWA's >>> Detailed Location symbols. >>> >>> Thank you! Wish you all a pleasant weekend. >>> maria >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Claudia S. Bianchini >> PhD Student @ Univ. Paris8 + CNRS-UMR7023-SFL >> PhD Student @ Univ. Studi di Perugia + CNR-ISTC-SLDS >> [log in to unmask] >> > > > -- Claudia S. Bianchini PhD Student @ Univ. Paris8 + CNRS-UMR7023-SFL PhD Student @ Univ. Studi di Perugia + CNR-ISTC-SLDS [log in to unmask]