Hi Charles, Valerie and
sw-list members,
Perhaps this sign can
explain better what is on my mind - the two hands move inwards –
startposition U-hand a little bit curved – in the endposition the two
fingers are really bent as much as possible –
I know and I understand
that the symbol with the bent square fingers has
been accepted and is established in order to indicate this clearly.
Our Font- design team would love to write this instead
with the curved lines as you can see on the left...
Would this be correct? Is there inany way a kind of
violation of principles? Is this a matter of artwork?
All best Stefan
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Auftrag von Stefan Wöhrmann
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Februar
2013 00:24
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bent fingers
Hi Charles, Valerie...
please let me explain
again – I am not discussing different signs. I am not discussing
that it is possible to bent the fingers just a little bit or extremely. I would
like to discuss
the possibility to write
the bent index as a bent sqare finger or as a half –circle
curve. See the sign below. Looking at the left or right hand there should
not be any difference – well perhaps except for the “feeling”
– smile
If you bent your fingers
– you can write this as bent square
fingers. (We find this for handshapes with one, two or three
fingers) We do not find this for 4 or 5 fingers –
Why?
Well the fingers bent the same way but the design of
that given handshape shows smooth lines instead of “bent square
fingers”
Is this because of a design – problem with old
software or is there an idea behind this concept.
I fully agree with your last statement
“ "beautiful" artwork must make sure that you
don't lose articulation. “ That is the reason that I ask for
your opinion smile!
Hi Valerie – what
do you think ?
All best
Stefan
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Auftrag von Charles Butler
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Februar
2013 23:12
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For me there is an essential difference between a bent
finger and a smoothed finger when you miss the point that two joints are
bent, like the difference between "depend" where the joints
smoothly go into a curve, and "friend" where they clearly link as
bent square fingers.
Hi Valerie and sw-friends, I would like to ask for your
comments about the following issue. Within our delegs-projekt a group
of specialized design-students have a second look at the various SW-symbols. From
their point of view there are options to “improve” the design of
some symbols in order to make the whole SW-symbol-font look more
“modern” or “nice” While preparing some studies of
the ongoing process they showed up with the question whether the bent index
can be written with smooth curves as well showing the index finger bent as
you designed it as a finger with sharp edges.
I played around with the signmaker
to create a little demo of what I am talking about. ;-)) Interesting question – so I
looked carefully at the Symbolset and discovered that the “claw
hand” is designed exactly this way (rounded lines for the
fingers) On the other hand the hands with
only one, two or at least three fingers show this other design with sharp 90°
angles. Can you tell us: Is this a matter
of history? Coming from the old “DOS-SW-Software – we could not
write nice circles either. You know this “old symbol” just
indicating that you are supposed to see a circle-movement shown as some dots
in a circle. What about this difference between
a clawhand with curves or the same hand written with edges?
Is there any meaningful difference
in the background that you would want us to know? Or is this a
matter of artwork? ... or something else? Would it be any difference if we
would write all these bent fingers with soft rounded lines? Thank you very much for your
attention. All best Stefan |
