There are movement symbols for the mouth in the ISWA. I always have to do some searching for them because they are only visible on the lowest levels, but I know they are there because I remember doing them for the SVGs. *grin*
In any case, I don't think that the movement symbols are needed because you have the positions. (I personally like the three over the two because it feels like there should be three mouthing positions.) I also don't think you need to have the double fast symbol for the mouth and hands. I think one is enough.
There is an idea, however, to use only one mouth and have the up-down movement symbol to show the opening and closing.
Hi Val and all,
I used the small arrowheads for opening and closing, even if I know that they are ment for knucles. Full double stemmed arrows did not seem to fit. Those used here are for movement of chin:
Actually, I do not know if we do have a convention for writing opening
or closing of the mouth - I know we do have for moving the lips in or
out. If we do not have such a convention, I would like to propose that
we use the same symbols as we use for the opening/ closing of the
knucles, as I did in this writing:
The movement of the mouth, very fast opening-closing, goes in step with the movement of the rigt hand - very fast down-up.
Is the writng with two mouth symbols more clear than the writng with three mouth symbols?
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:13:55 -0700
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Subject: Re: Writing Non Manual Signals
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April 14, 2013
Hi Ingvild -
Thank you for trying two Mouth Positions rather than three. I prefer the two Mouth Positions, if I have understood it correctly, that there are two arrows for the hand movement …one going down and then up again. When I read this, I assume that the first open Mouth Position goes with the first movement of the hand, and the second Mouth Position happens on the second movement of the hand - this way I know what is happening during the movement…so this works for me as a reader - Does this seem correct to you?
I have another question…Near the Mouth Positions you have a Very-Fast symbol - the Double Fast Symbol - which is clear to me - but what do the little symbols mean below and above the Double Fast symbol? The slender little arrowheads that point up and down? Are they necessary and what do they represent related to Mouth Positions?