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But the hand is flat and split, not split into five fingers. That's why I look at it differently. It's not a flat hand and an open 5 hand. Charles Butler [log in to unmask] 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. --- On Sun, 4/21/13, Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Handshapes used in ASL To: [log in to unmask] Date: Sunday, April 21, 2013, 11:10 PM I was thinking about the same thing when I was looking at that handshape. The reason I didn't add it is because I could write it like this and not need that symbol. Adam On Apr 21, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Charles Butler wrote: How about this one, the split FIVE hand. This handshape is used for the same meaning in Brazil. Charles Butler [log in to unmask] 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. --- On Sun, 4/21/13, Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Handshapes used in ASL To: [log in to unmask] Date: Sunday, April 21, 2013, 10:27 PM I have been looking at the Symbol Frequency in SignPuddle to see what handshapes would truly be necessary in ASL. What I did was I added symbols with high frequency automatically and then looked at the handshapes that had a low number to judge if the signs written could be written with or with a different symbol from my personal experience. Below is the list that I have come up with. I was quite amazed that there were only 83. Are there any handshapes that you feel I might have errorously ignored or overzealously added? Adam