I was suspicious of the R with a thumb as well. I did see the name sign for Ronald Reagan in the list of signs that use that handshape, but I also found REVIEW and DOLPHIN. Those were signs that I felt could not be written any other way unless there was the thumb, so that is why I included it in the list.
Yes, I looked at the list from Stokoe. I have all the handshapes he mentioned and more.
On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:03 AM, Cherie Wren wrote:
third group, 9th sign-- the R with thumb extended-- I have been racking my brain trying to find a sign that uses that. Then I though, Duh... and did a symbol search in the American signpuddle, found all of one match, and that was a name sign. How do you evaluate whether that is truly necessary? Many people are "thumb signers" ---meaning they lazily leave the thumb sticking out even when it is not part of the sign/handshape. There are "pinky signers" too.
This is just my first read thru, and looked mostly at what is NOT a regular ASL handshape. That is the only one I questioned at all. I'll give it some more study to see if there is anything missing from the list... that is harder! Did you look at Stokoe's work to see what handshapes he included as required in
I have been looking at the Symbol Frequency in SignPuddle to see what handshapes would truly be necessary in ASL. What I did was I added
symbols with high frequency automatically and then looked at the handshapes that had a low number to judge if the signs written could be written with or with a different symbol from my personal experience. Below is the list that I have come up with. I was quite amazed that there were only 83. Are there any handshapes that you feel I might have errorously ignored or overzealously added?