Hi everyone,
thanks for the interesting discussions :)

It just crossed my mind just now...Steve, could all entries be sorted into different folders. I'm thinking of the issue of 'student/test' entries..
Imagine you have a group working on dictionary entries..could they somehow input all their entries into a single folder..Then when student/test enters an entry they could save all their work into a specific folder.
Sorry if this sounds's just that when I search for entries in Puddle
 all entries are listed and mixed together..and i was thinking wouldn't it be more user-friendly if you could search by folders of people who input entries..something like how we keep files and folders in windows..
just a thought.

On 3 July 2013 17:00, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I like that. It lets people know what this classifier is for and can cross-reference to other terms in a lexicon. If I show the sign "accident" in ASL I am using a classifier, but I can also show the sign "park the car" with the same classifier and use the same handshape as the number "3" not as the "classifier-3". Defining terms is always a part of the linguistic historian's presentations. 
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From: Cherie Wren <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: SignPuddle database design options

Classifiers have multiple functions.  Some describe somethings movement-- acting as a verb;  Some describe an objects size or shape-- acting as an adjective;  some describe location-- acting as a preposition; some describe the manner of movement-- acting as an adverb; they can show path of movement/direction/speed, they can show orientation in space, they can show number or quantity,.....  and I'm sure there are many i am missing.  They are not unique to signed languages, but they are much more used and integral in signed languages.  I think they need a category, and perhaps a space to add more information, such as 'locative' or 'size and shape specifier'


From: Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: SignPuddle database design options

To be honest, I have always seen what everyone is calling a classifier here function as a verb rather than a noun or anything else. It is true that classifiers can only work with certain nouns, but it doesn't function as a noun itself.

I agree with the issue of simplicity & usability versus flexibility & exactness. There needs to be a balance between the two sides. That's why I was thinking of having the major categories be static and then having the subcategories be something that people can enter to be able to identify more specifically what the entries are. The other issue is that even the major categories might not fit all sign languages because we don't really know yet. Going static could possibility hurt more than benefit.


On Jul 3, 2013, at 6:29 AM, Stephen E Slevinski Jr wrote:

I was wondering about that.  
* Should classifier be added to the list?
* Is a classifier only part of a sign?
* Can classifier fall under another part of speech, such as noun or pronoun?


On 7/2/13 9:41 AM, Adam Frost wrote:
I think that would be a very good idea for all of the categories to be able to select a subcategory to say specifically what type of verb, noun, etc.
Hi Adam,

I'm torn by simplicity & usability versus flexible & exact.