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Thank you Charles...i also found this that helps:
http://www.signwriting.org/library/history/hist008.html
much obliged!
maria


On 27 August 2013 13:58, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I know that several of the old timers use shorthand all the time to take
> quick notes (Adam Frost comes to mind). I believe the book can be
> special-ordered from Valerie as shorthand is not accessible by computer as
> it is meant to be written, not typed.
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> Handwriting is not quick, but it is clear and readable and I can read
> notes I wrote more than 20 years ago at this point. I teach handwriting
> when I teach signwriting myself.
>
> Charles Butler
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> 240-764-5748
> Clear writing moves business forward.
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>  *From:* Honza <[log in to unmask]>
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:41 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: Fast sign writting - shorthand
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> Hi Charles,
>
> yes I know this page, but there is only handwriting explained but not
> shorthand, only differences, but not the way I get certain SW symbols by
> shorthand.
> Anyway is more used handwriting or shorthand?
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> Thank you,
> Honza
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> On 27 August 2013 12:15, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> www.*signwriting*.org/lessons/cursive/***shorthand*
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> It's amazing what happens when you simply search for it on the web.
>
> Charles Butler
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> 240-764-5748
> Clear writing moves business forward.
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>  *From:* Honza <[log in to unmask]>
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 27, 2013 3:31 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Fast sign writting - shorthand
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> Hello everyone,
>
> I am very interested in SW-short hand, but I haven't found any manual on
> the web.
> Is there any?
>
> Thank you
> Honza
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> On 27 August 2013 03:11, Romero <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Definitely faster, but necessary to keep practicing. I use "speed" writing
> & F.S. for my lists of things to do (shopping, reminders, important notes).
>
> Nancy R.
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> On Aug 26, 2013, at 6:07 PM, "Charles Butler" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
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> I agree, shorthand is much faster, I know it in concept but have not used
> it enough to be fluent.
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> Charles Butler
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> 240-764-5748
> Clear writing moves business forward.
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>  *From:* Romero <[log in to unmask]>
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 8:48 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Fast sign writting
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> Oh I see the difference here. Charles' example is of "speed writing"; what
> I learned is actually shorthand. Entirely different.
>
> Nancy Romero
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> On Aug 26, 2013, at 5:45 PM, André L <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Thank you,
> your example looks like what I started to do, but you have more skills!
> It seems I am on the right track.
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> I just need to become more fluent and learn to write without watching my
> pencil.
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> André Lemyre
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> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:59:18 -0700
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Fast sign writting
> To: [log in to unmask]
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtVJyVCW2o0
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> Here is a video of Lucinda Batch talking about how sign writing has
> changed.
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> I found myself being able to follow her and sign myself very quickly from
> the subject matter.
>
> However, writing her signs quickly is a challenge. Here are 8 signs from a
> transcription. It is not perfect, but this is "hand" writing, not computer
> writing.
>
> Charles Butler
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> 240-764-5748
> Clear writing moves business forward.
>
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> *From:* André L <[log in to unmask]>
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 5:17 PM
> *Subject:* Fast sign writting
>
> Hi,
> I will be starting soon my LSQ signing classes.
> Do you have any documents on how to write signs fast to take notes during
> a class.
> I found only a few examples on the web site...
> If you have drafts...
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> Thanks.
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> André Lemyre
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