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Thank you Charles...i also found this that helps:
http://www.signwriting.org/library/history/hist008.html
much obliged!
maria


On 27 August 2013 13:58, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I know that several of the old timers use shorthand all the time to take quick notes (Adam Frost comes to mind). I believe the book can be special-ordered from Valerie as shorthand is not accessible by computer as it is meant to be written, not typed. 

Handwriting is not quick, but it is clear and readable and I can read notes I wrote more than 20 years ago at this point. I teach handwriting when I teach signwriting myself. 
 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:41 AM

Subject: Re: Fast sign writting - shorthand

Hi Charles,

yes I know this page, but there is only handwriting explained but not shorthand, only differences, but not the way I get certain SW symbols by shorthand.
Anyway is more used handwriting or shorthand?

Thank you,
Honza


On 27 August 2013 12:15, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/shorthand  

It's amazing what happens when you simply search for it on the web. 
 
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From: Honza <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: Fast sign writting - shorthand

Hello everyone,

I am very interested in SW-short hand, but I haven't found any manual on the web.
Is there any?

Thank you
Honza


On 27 August 2013 03:11, Romero <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Definitely faster, but necessary to keep practicing. I use "speed" writing & F.S. for my lists of things to do (shopping, reminders, important notes). 

Nancy R.

On Aug 26, 2013, at 6:07 PM, "Charles Butler" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I agree, shorthand is much faster, I know it in concept but have not used it enough to be fluent.


 
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Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: Fast sign writting

Oh I see the difference here. Charles' example is of "speed writing"; what I learned is actually shorthand. Entirely different.

Nancy Romero

On Aug 26, 2013, at 5:45 PM, André L <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Thank you,
your example looks like what I started to do, but you have more skills!
It seems I am on the right track.  
 
I just need to become more fluent and learn to write without watching my pencil.
 

André Lemyre
 

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:59:18 -0700
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Subject: Re: Fast sign writting
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Here is a video of Lucinda Batch talking about how sign writing has changed. 

I found myself being able to follow her and sign myself very quickly from the subject matter. 

However, writing her signs quickly is a challenge. Here are 8 signs from a transcription. It is not perfect, but this is "hand" writing, not computer writing. 
 
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From: André L <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 5:17 PM
Subject: Fast sign writting

Hi,
I will be starting soon my LSQ signing classes.
Do you have any documents on how to write signs fast to take notes during a class.
I found only a few examples on the web site...
If you have drafts...
 
Thanks.
 
André Lemyre