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This is a great discussion - indeed, the kind of thing I was interested in
working with for my book project. There have been some very interesting
FROG sentences and discussion, but perhaps I can also include a discussion
of this elicited sentence as well if no one objects.


On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> SignWriting List
> September 8, 2013
>
> I like both translations... I think both are valid and readable… in fact
> the first translation might be better for some readers… a lot depends on
> the target audience, as was mentioned before...
>
> Thank you everyone for this discussion...
>
> Val ;-)
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> On Sep 8, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
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> Perfect. Shows parallelism of concepts.
>
> Charles Butler
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>  *From:* Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]>
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 8, 2013 11:23 AM
> *Subject:* Re: help with writing an ASL sentence for an academic paper
>
> Here is a new translation. I feel that this is better than the one that I
> had done before.
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> Glossing of the above sentence:
> THIS/HERE EXAMPLE SENTENCE, ASL, SIGNWRITING.
> Translation of the above sentence:
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> This example sentence is in ASL and SignWriting.
> The first 3 signs are topicalized because of the brow raising followed by
> a pause. The last two signs are separated by a pause to signify "and". I
> did think about wether or not I should place them in left and right lanes,
> but then decided against it because I am not comparing the two concepts.
> You might notice that I completely avoided the use of "written" and
> "with". Part of it was because it was giving me a struggle in how to
> translate it, but also because I realized that the sentence was actually
> making two statements: this is an ASL example and that it was written in
> SignWriting. When I played with writing two separate sentences, I realized
> that if I were talking with my friends that I would just say "This is in
> SignWriting" rather than "This is written in SignWriting", so I went with
> the idea that the example is in ASL and SignWriting.
> Adam
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> Courtesy of SignBank.org <http://www.signbank.org/>
> On Sep 7, 2013, at 4:41 PM, maria galea wrote:
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> Dear list members particularly ASL users,
>
> A friend of mine who happens to be a linguist in the field of writing
> systems of the world is hoping to include the mentioning of SignWriting as
> a writing system of the world, and he has asked if someone could translate
> the following sentence into ASL SignWriting:
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> "This is an American sign language example written with SignWriting "
>
> If you could add sign-to-meaning correspondences, syntactic factors, and
> lexical selection considerations would be helpful for him.
>
> Thank you! It would be great if SignWriting makes its way into the
> academic field of writing systems, so thank you very much for helping out
> with this (i can't do it myself, because I'm not an ASL user)
>
> best regards to everyone!
> maria
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Erika Hoffmann-Dilloway
Assistant Professor of Anthropology
Oberlin College