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Hi Stefan,
     Thanks for sharing your point of view.  I didn't mean to open a can 
of worms.  I know you and others have mentioned this previously I still 
don't quite fully understand the issue.

For the symbols in the second row, could you draw me how you feel the 
symbols should look like for this handshape?

This doesn't have to do with my previous question for searching but just 
the same I am still interested in understanding this issue.  I do see 
how the thumb on the other side of the hand looks like contortionism (so 
in a way I agree with you)  but I don't understand how you would draw it 
otherwise while maintaining a distinction between this handshape and one 
with the thumb pointing down.

I enjoy reading your comments here on the list.

Regards,
Jonathan

On 9/20/2013 1:57 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:
>
> Hi Valerie, Jonathan and friends,
>
> Perhaps it is good to know that every five years or so we open this 
> can of worms again and again ... There are somesymbols for hand shapes 
> that are not accepted by all experienced writers in this way.
>
> I do not understand and my brain refuses to accept  the writing in the 
> second line ... the right thumb looking as if sticking out to the left 
> is extremely confusing to me.
>
> I would never use this symbol to indicate the right hand...
>
> Just to add a comment ... everybody is free to write as he wants to 
> smile -- (I know) but nevertheless --
>
> In this case it looks as if there is a "rule"   since this graphic and 
> photo shows up in a "manual" and as if people who would not follow 
> would not know how to do it correctly ... smile
>
> Perhaps there is a way to identify and mark these symbols that are 
> still a problemn to some of us.
>
> All best Stefan
>
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> *Betreff:* Finger Direction Is Meaningful
>
> Hi Val and Adam,
>     I have a question about the "Finger Direction Is Meaningful" pages 
> in the "SignWriting Hand Symbols" manual and the "American Sign 
> Language Hand Symbols" manual.
>
>     I understand the these handshapes and positions can we written 
> either like the left column or the right column. Is this only true in 
> the case of the top view of the back of the hand pointing forward?  I 
> see that ALL the examples are the top view of the back of the hand 
> pointing forward.  Also, would this be true of all handshapes or just 
> the one you have listed on the "Finger Direction Is Meaningful" pages?
>
> Thanks
>
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