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I  am looking for sign writing examples. I haave tried to translate the word arbituary and iconic but I could not do it.

Melinda


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From: Cherie Wren <[log in to unmask]>
To: SW-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: Arbitrary and Iconic



Are you looking for signwriting examples of those linguistic terms, or are you looking for translations of the terms themselves?  Two very different problems...

cherie





  
 
 
 
   From: Melinda <[log in to unmask]>
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thanks for helping
 
I do have other lingusitc terms if they can help. I have thepowerpoint already made but i need to sign on to sign writing for example:
 
1. symmetry and dominance conditions
 
2. NMS- mouth morphemes
 
3. Language and communication systems- how they are differ
 
ETC.
 
Many thanks for helping me. Smile
 
 
Melinda


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From: Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:20 pm
Subject: Re: Arbitrary and Iconic


SignWriting List
September 4, 2013


Thanks for your help, Charles. I need everyone's help!


So Melinda - there are wonderful people here on the List who can help you get your PowerPoint completed for your school -


I love PowerPoint and I plan to post some of our other teacher's PowerPoint presentations too, on the SignWriting site, so this is a great time to develop your PowerPoint -


I will learn with you…smile….


Val ;-)


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On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



It took reading her sentence several times think she may mean "arbitrary" or "iconic" signs. Because they are "iconic" they are contextual, meaning "not a dictionary entry" but simply a configuration that is being used in a particular sense, like the "three" hand being used for "vehicles" in several signs. I looked up "vehicle" and found these three signs that are used in that context. ABC poems use that concept all the time. SignWriting is based on writing what you see, NOT the meaning. 







Two cars get into an accident, they stop, then one follows the other away. 



 
Charles Butler
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From: Melinda <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wed, Sep 4, 2013 11:05 am
Subject: Re: SignWriting in PowerPoint


how do I translate words like arbituary and iconic words in ASL?
 
melinda


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From: Melinda <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Fri, Aug 30, 2013 11:00 am
Subject: Re: SignWriting in PowerPoint


PLEASE CHECK IT OUT WHERE i TRANSLATE,
 
http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/translate.php?ui=1&sgn=4


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Sent: Fri, Aug 30, 2013 10:56 am
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SignWriting List
August 30, 2013


On Aug 30, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Melinda <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I went in the website that you suggested and I tran to add the wordon translate and nothing happens.
Can you tell me what I a doing wrong? Smile, Melinda


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Hello Melinda!
Thank you for trying…big smile too ;-))


Let us take it one step at a time to see what happens…I am sure we can figure it out...


You went to:
http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=4


Looking at the attached diagram, you succeeded to do Number 1 and 2 and 3, but then nothing happened? When you scrolled down you did not see any choices of signs?


There is a chance that the signs you tried to translate were not in the ASL Dictionary…what words did you try to translate?


For right now, lets try the word HELLO  - do not try other words - let us first see if you can get it to work for the word HELLO...


Then we can start doing your real translation together…


Write again to tell me if you can translate the word HELLO…. and do what is in the diagram…


Thanks Melinda - and welcome once again to the List ;-)