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Hi André,
     Way back I wrote a program called ASL List that did exactly what 
you want but it was limited it only had so many signs.  So I decided to 
and SignWriting to it and then came about SignWriter Studio.

Presently that feature isn't working but I will work on that next now 
that someone else is also interested!!!

Jonathan

On 10/2/2013 7:09 PM, André L wrote:
>
>  Hello Valerie,
> I would like to know how to create a paper dictionary (like a book) by 
> importing ALL LSQ signs from sign puddle.  I could show that to 
> collegue students, interpreters and use it myself.
>
> Also, can we develop a technical dictionary (like for a student 
> electrician) that will also be part of the main dictionary?
> Would there be a way to gather a pdf subset of the main dictionary 
> that the student could share with several interpreters working with 
> him-her?
>
> André Lemyre
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:30:46 -0700
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Sign puddle online does not translate existing words
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> SignWriting List
> October 2, 2013
>
> Hello Andre, and Andre, Steve and Jonathan!
>
> So ….we have some wonderful software that needs to be better 
> coordinated - but both programs by themselves work well. Right now, 
> Steve needs to complete the new SinPuddle 3 and get it uploaded, 
> because it also contains new features that everyone wants, and it has 
> taken longer than expected to complete the software…
>
> Regarding creating your own dictionaries, there is not only SignWriter 
> Studio, but also the PersonalPuddle, and Private Web Puddles, and you 
> can also use SignPuddle Online and label your signs as yours in the 
> Source and those signs could always be transferred to SignWriter 
> Studio maybe? can one reverse the process? - ha! In time, all these 
> programs will work well together I am sure…both Jonathan and Steve 
> work for very little pay and are working hard to make the programs 
> work well -
>
> So for now, I would either use the workaround that Jonathan suggested, 
> or edit the signs in SignText, not SignMaker… let me test this myself 
> - I am sorry I have not done that yet -
>
> SignBank would not work with this because it has not been updated for 
> years but I want to update it in the future -
>
> Val ;-)
>
> ----
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2013, at 5:20 PM, André L <[log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>
>     Hello Jonathan,
>
>     thank you for the work around.
>     I will try it this weekend.
>     I will try to contact Steve to assist me because I have over a
>     hundred signs to process.
>     I have many more signs in draft in SignWriter studio.
>
>     Also, I tried sign bank 85 but I could never upload the Québec
>     Sign language files I copied from Sign puddle, so I gave up.   I
>     would have like to build a dictionnary.
>
>
>     André Lemyre
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 16:29:30 -0600
>     From:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>     Subject: Re: Sign puddle online does not translate existing words
>     To:[log in to unmask]
>     <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
>     Hi Andre,
>        When exporting from SignWriter Studio to Sign Puddle there is
>     no way to directly to a SignMaker entry. This is a limitation of
>     SignPuddle. I have run into this limitation myself personally
>     trying to add and modify sign to the puddle from SignWriter
>     Studio.  SignPuddle doesn't yet have adequate import/export or
>     synching capabilities. I have written to Steve about it but he
>     hasn't been able to make it a priority yet.
>     If you just have a few signs then this is they way to do it.
>
>      1. In SignWriter Studio when positioned on the sign, click
>         Edit/Copy/Copy Sign to Sign Puddle or press Ctrl-Alt-C.  It
>         shows the sign in SignPuddle in your browser.
>      2. Click on the puddle you want to save to.
>      3. In Terms type "temp"
>      4. Click Add
>      5. Click Copy Sign From SignText
>      6. Click Copy Sign
>      7. Click on SignPuddle you want to save to
>      8. In Terms type in the term for the sign
>      9. Click Add
>     10. Click on Search by Words or Search by Signs
>     11. In Terms and Titles type "temp"
>     12. Click on temp
>     13. Click Delete Entry
>     14. Click Delete Entry
>
>
>
>     Otherwise you might ask Steve if you export to an SPML file if he
>     can add them for you.
>
>     I hope his helps
>
>     Regards,
>     Jonathan
>
>     On 10/2/2013 11:41 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>
>         SignWriting List
>         October 2, 2013
>
>         Andre, Steve, Charles and Jonathan -
>
>         No worries everyone. Thank you for your messages. And thank
>         you for bringing this issue up, which as far as I know, from
>         my experience, is specific between the two programs:
>         SignWriter Studio and SignPuddle. I noticed this issue myself
>         a long time ago and did mention it once to Jonathan, but there
>         is so much to do it got sidetracked. It seems that exporting
>         signs from the SignWriter Studio dictionary end up as SignText
>         in SignPuddle instead of dictionary entries…so the signs are
>         not made with SignMaker, but instead with SignWriter Studio's
>         dictionary, but they need to end up as the equivalent to signs
>         made with SignMaker… not as SignText …so we need both
>         Jonathan's and Steve's help with this one -
>
>         Thank you, Andre, by the way, for your documents - they are
>         charming! And thank you for pointing this out to us -
>
>         Val ;-)
>
>         --------
>
>
>
>
>         On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Charles Butler
>         <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>         wrote:
>
>             IF this does not work from a compatible program then the
>             compatibility program of the major SignWriting programs
>             need to all be made compatible. I know that this is a
>             challenge, but making a new signwriting translator without
>             a compatibility check seems a little futile. If the main
>             database can't retrieve the words, then the point of Open
>             Source is not being fulfilled.
>
>             To do Open Source means that all output from a given input
>             must be compatible to the central databank, in the case,
>             SignBank, SignPuddle, and all of those others created.
>
>             Is it not part of the spec of importing signs? Is there
>             not a command to say "which of the following compatible
>             programs are you using to import to SignPuddle?" "have you
>             contact Steve Slevinski to ensure that the program will in
>             fact import your signs in a form that is acceptable to the
>             data retrieval function."
>
>             Else, it is a very large learning curve.
>             Charles Butler
>             [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>             240-764-5748
>             Clear writing moves business forward.
>
>             ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>             *From:*Stephen E Slevinski Jr <[log in to unmask]
>             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>             *To:*[log in to unmask]
>             <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>             *Sent:*Wednesday, October 2, 2013 1:03 PM
>             *Subject:*Re: Sign puddle online does not translate
>             existing words
>
>
>             On 10/2/13 11:37 AM, André L wrote:
>
>                 Hello,
>
>                 Many of the words I entered in sign puddle using sign
>                 studio are not displayed in the translate feature.
>                 Only the words are displayed without sign.
>                 However, with a seach on the same words, the sign is
>                 displayed.
>
>             Hi Andre,
>
>             The translate feature works with individual signs that
>             were created in SignMaker.
>
>             The translate feature does not work with sign texts that
>             were created with SignText.
>
>             Looking at the "assis" entry:
>             http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/canvas.php?ui=1&sgn=47&sid=4400
>
>
>
>             The sign is boxed and a lower font size.  This indicates
>             it was created with SignText.  Under the "Source", you can
>             see the "SignText data" links.  This sign will not work in
>             the current translate.
>
>             Here is "assistant" in the same dictionary.
>
>
>
>             Notice that it is not boxed and a larger font size. This
>             indicates is was created with SignMaker. Under the
>             "Search.." links, you can see the "Sign data" links.  This
>             sign will work in translate.
>
>
>             So that's the problem.  You say you created this with
>             "sign studio".  Are you talking about Jonathan's
>             SignWriter Studio?  Or did you use SignText?
>
>             The solution is to move the signs from the sign text area
>             to individual signs. I'm not sure the best way to do this.
>
>             How many entries are like this?
>
>             Regards,
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