Hi Dali, Valerie, Charles, ...
Well discussing spelling
issues is always interesting and I can take advantage out of that every time
...
Looking carefully at the
video several times ...
The signer performs this
sign with the left hand startting as a flat hand..ending as a five-hand
(Is this important...does
he sign it this way because we wants to?)
In the video I cannot
identify any trembling of the spread five fingers of the right hand ... but
your spelling says ...you would want to sign it that way?
In the video the right
hand starts palm parallel to the floor ...ending palm towards the body.
I agree with Valerie and
Charles ..Your version number 4 is a good way ... except for hand orientation
of the right hand in the beginning. I would prefer to write it as discribed
above ... palm parallel to the floor ..so the fingers need the gaps ..(smile)
All best
Stefan
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I agree with you, Charles - for some reason when I read them, the
fourth one seems the easiest - Val ;-)
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On Dec 28, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I like number 4 best, it's
clearest.
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December 28, 2013
On Dec 28, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Dali balti <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
Hello SW list!
I was trying to write down one
sign which means waterfalls!
I was thinking of many ways to write
it down, it is so complicated that I do not know how to write it!
Reading my signwriting and the
picture, you might guess the meaning, any suggstions please??!!!
if it is still not clear, here
is the video on youtube, you find the sign on minute 2:50
Blessings!
Dali :D
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Hello Dali, and everyone on the SW List -
Thank you for informing us about this video online:
Arab
Sign Language dictionary for the deaf
القاموس الإشاري العربي للصم
www.menasy.com
www.menasy.net
www.menasy.org
and thank you, Dali, for starting to write the signs
from this video dictionary in Arab Sign Language in SignWriting...You may have
noticed that I shared some of your Arab Sign Language writings on my Facebook
page?… As you know, Dr. Mohamed AbuShaira has written some in the Saudi Arabian
SignPuddle Online:
Saudi Arabian SignPuddle
It would be great to add some of these signs to the
SignPuddle dictionary at some point…I just added my three attempts at writing
this sign to the Saudi Arabian SignPuddle mentioned above…
Regarding the sign for WATERFALL or CASCADE … I tried
to find it on the video but there were so many signs on the video and I could
not find it - but looking at your writing and the picture I think I understand
what you mean…
I think you did really well writing a difficult sign …
Attached is my writing and I hope that others will
give their feedback too… there are always several ways to write signs...
Regarding Surface Symbols… I would suggest not using
them. I do not write with Surface Symbols, except for rare cases when we are
trying to write something for research, but for SignWriting for everyday use
they are not necessary… Notice there are four examples in the attached diagram:
1. your original writing
2. my writing without Surface Symbols, and only one
position…this is a simple writing that might be enough information for those
who know the sign
3. my writing with a beginning and ending position,
for writing vertically - but I am not sure the ending position is needed - just
an idea
4. my writing with a beginning and ending position,
for writing horizontally - again, I am not sure the ending position is needed -
Notice how I wrote with arm lines - I think the arm
lines help to see that the right hand has moved up-and-over and landed behind
the left hand - the left arm line became dark in the second position to show
that the left hand and arm is now closer to the chest (the reader) - the darker
arm line means “closer to the chest” - the dark arm line is a way to see depth
- it shows which arm is in front of the other -
Please see attached…
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