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There are a lot of signs in the video. It is not just one sign. I don't speak Arabic, and there seem to be a lot of signs with a fluttering flat open hand. Charles Butler [log in to unmask] 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. ________________________________ From: Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 10:42 AM Subject: Re: One sign difficult writing SignWriting List December 29, 2013 Hello Charles, Stefan and Dali - Thank you for these discussions. Although I have not seen the video, if it were my choice, I would not write the down-diagonal hand position with a diagonal line across the hand to show the diagonal position dipping partially down. I would assume the sign will be read without the added detail of the down-diagonal hand position, and it is too much detail to write down-diagonal hand positions for everyday use… the simpler the better… And as you can see, I chose to write the left hand from the Front View and not the Top View…I think it is easier to read that way as well - But there are always other ways to write the same sign, so if you have other ways to write it, feel free to post it - I need to look at the video again - for some reason, on the video, I saw one sign after the other, but not the one we are trying to write - I suspect that must have been a computer glitch here, since you all saw the video easily - For example, Stefan mentions that it starts out as a Flat Hand and not a Spread Five Hand - so that I did not realize - So Dali, with our three-way conversation here, I think you can read the different ideas from the three of us, and you can choose to write it as you wish - Thank you for sharing with us! Val ;-) -------- On Dec 29, 2013, at 6:34 AM, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]> wrote: I looked at the left hand again and it starts out pointing diagonally down and to the right as a flat hand, I can easily do across and to the right on a diagonal but I'm not sure how to show the diagonal forward and down. Do we need a line through it as well? > > > >Charles Butler >[log in to unmask] >240-764-5748 >Clear writing moves business forward. > > > >________________________________ > From: Dali balti <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 9:29 PM >Subject: One sign difficult writing > > > >Hello SW list! >I was trying to write down one sign which means waterfalls! >I was thinking of many ways to write it down, it is so complicated that I do not know how to write it! >Reading my signwriting and the picture, you might guess the meaning, any suggstions please??!!! >if it is still not clear, here is the video on youtube, you find the sign on minute 2:50 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIiyIl4yNtI > > > >Blessings! > > >Dali :D > > ________________________________________________ >SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION >Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] >Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] >SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist >Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 > > ________________________________________________ > > >SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION >Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] >Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] >SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist >Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 ________________________________________________ SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 ________________________________________________ SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1