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The one attached here is the one I'm talking about. I keep on having the same one with two right hands. Am I confused? I'm still getting the same OLD posting. Charles Butler [log in to unmask] 240-764-5748 Clear writing moves business forward. ________________________________ From: Ingvild Roald <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 5:20 PM Subject: Re: One sign difficult writing Are we discussing the same writing? In my first posting I had written the sign whith two right hands as Val pointed out. I then poste da new versjon whith a left and a right hand. Your comments have been after my last posting Sendt fra mi Den 30. des. 2013 kl. 15:25 skrev "Charles Butler" <[log in to unmask]>: Again, Ingvild, unless I twist my entire body so that the arm is also pointing left, I cannot read your sign as anything other than two right hands. > > >Charles Butler >[log in to unmask] >240-764-5748 >Clear writing moves business forward. > > > >________________________________ > From: Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 9:12 AM >Subject: Re: One sign difficult writing > > > >I have never understood anything but the Parkhurst rule. I follow the thumb side pointing inward when the hand is turned forward and down. I look at a photograph, if I can't lay my hands down on the photo and show the thumb on the correct side, there is a serious problem. > > > > >Charles Butler >[log in to unmask] >240-764-5748 >Clear writing moves business forward. > > > >________________________________ > From: Ingvild Roald <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 8:38 AM >Subject: Re: One sign difficult writing > > > >On my left hand, the fingers certainly do point to the left when the hand is curved and the palm is down. I understand the sign to show the water flowing over a rock or a precipie of some sort. The water then is represented by the right hand and the rock or whatever by the left hand. If my understanding of the Tunisian sign is wrong, I appologize > >Ingvild > > > >________________________________ >Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 04:23:08 -0800 >From: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: One sign difficult writing >To: [log in to unmask] > > >I can't read the first sign in your sentence as the left-hand fingers are pointed to the left and my hand just doesn't twist that way. Is there some reason the curl of the fingers is draped over the left way when the right hand is going over the top? > > >This makes no sense. > >Charles Butler >[log in to unmask] >240-764-5748 >Clear writing moves business forward. > > > >________________________________ > From: Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 3:25 PM >Subject: Re: One sign difficult writing > > > >SignWriting List >December 29, 2013 > > >On Dec 29, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Ingvild Roald <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >When I saw your qusteion, I imediately thought of two Norwegian signs wich are in many ways similar. (The NSL for waterfall is one-handed, and thus less complicated). Those two signs means 'expert' (right hand brushing atop left hand, both hands horisontal ond fingers spread) and 'maculation by shedding' (rigt hand brushing left hand, both hands vertcal/down and with fingers spread). No jigeling of fingers on those two. I have attached my attempts two write these signs. I find the Tusnisan sign much harder to write ... >> >>Ingvild > >—— > > >Thank you for these Norwegian signs, Ingvild! The last three I can read well. The first sign…do you mean for the cupped hand to be the left hand? If it is a left hand, then I believe it needs to be flopped? Tell us more about that sign… Yes, I agree the Tunisian sign is harder to write…. smile... > > >________________________________________________ >SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION >Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] >Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] >SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist >Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1<waterfall expert expert maculate.JPG> > > >________________________________________________ >SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION >Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] >Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] >SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist >Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 > > >________________________________________________ >SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION >Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] >Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] >SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist >Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 > >________________________________________________ >SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION >Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] >Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] >SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist >Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 > > > >________________________________________________ >SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION >Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] >Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] >SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist >Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 > > > >________________________________________________ >SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION >Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] >Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] >SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist >Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 ________________________________________________ SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1