On 12/13/13, 4:44 PM, Cherie Wren wrote:
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I would suggest that more than one person be involved in approving/rejecting.  It is always good to have a second set of eyes look at something-- so I should not be able to instantly approve my own stuff, but I should also be able to say why I wrote it that way so someone who spells it differently can't instantly reject it...

That's an interesting idea, but it opens a lot of questions.

Maybe a voting style.  Up or down is the easiest.


Sideways for non-standard.

Is this rude in any sign language?

Written in SignWriting, we have three simple choices.

It might be nice to include the facial expression for the 3 voting choices.  If anyone is up to a challenge, can you write 3 signs using the handshapes above and include the corresponding facial expression?

Any user can vote on any entry and leave a comment.  Every entry will show the voting tally if it exists.  If people are comfortable entering their writing skill level and language proficiency on their user profile page, the voting may show some interesting correlations.

Changing the entry resets the voting, but leaves an audit trail so that a user can see the previous versions of the entry and any of the corresponding voting.

Ultimately, an editor of the puddle would have to change the status of the entry, but depending on the situation, the editor could give it a thumbs down and leave a comment without changing the provisional status or the editor could move it to an appropriate puddle.

* provisional
* approved
* non-standard
* rejected

Specifically, I'd like to clean up the ASL Dictionary.  I'd like to be aggressive with the editing, but I don't want to kill the fun of SignPuddle or cause anyone any stress. 

I propose to copy the ASL Dictionary to a new puddle named "ASL Practice".  Starting in 2014, the ASL Dictionary and ASL Practice would be the same. By the end of the 2014, I'm hoping the ASL Dictionary will be much improved and I'm hoping that people are writing and interacting within the ASL Practice.

By convention, voting would be handled differently for the ASL Dictionary and for ASL Practice.

Normal users have full voting privileges, while editors have more options.  Instead of down voting a new entry for teacher in the ASL Dictionary, an editor could move the new entry to the ASL Practice and up vote the entry leaving a nice message "Nice writing.  I moved this to practice because the dictionary already had an equivalent sign."

SignPuddle 3 is centered on languages so every sign language can have multiple puddles.  Each will have the possibility of a dictionary puddle and a practice puddle.  The existing sign language dictionaries will be imported and labeled.  Every sign language will start with an empty practice puddle. 

Thinking out loud,


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