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January 20, 2014

Hello Maria and everyone -

There are three Puddle files related to translating the Bible into American Sign Language:

ASL Bible Dictionary

ASL Bible Books NLT

ASL Bible Books Shores Deaf Church

The NLT stands for New Living Translation, which is an English translation of the Bible. Nancy is basing her ASL translations on the NLT Bible, and writing directly in ASL. Nancy is an ASL interpreter. She is not transcribing from video - she is translating directly, and writing how she would sign the passages, if she were interpreting it.

Members of the Shores Deaf Church, with Pastor Ron Dettloff, are transcribing ASL videos made by another group, the Deaf Missions, who re-told the Bible into ASL on video. Ron and his church got permission to transcribe those videos into SignWriting.

So they are two totally different styles of writing. And it got confusing when their files were all in the same Puddle, because they were both writing the Book of Acts - and they were different styles of writing Acts - so now the two styles are separated so we can see consistency in the writings -

I am delighted we did this - it was best for everyone - and we all can read the files anytime -

Nancy just completed the entire Book of Acts, and is only two books away from completing the entire New Testament!

And the Deaf Shores Church continues as well - both wonderful projects -

I am so sorry this causes trouble for your data, Maria. Since Nancy is creating documents daily with lightning speed, there is no way your data from 2012 could be accurate - she already has much of Mark done, which is one of the two remaining books she has to complete to complete the New Testament, so she is working so fast I doubt your sign count will ever be accurate ;-)

Can you count the signs again for January 2014?

Val ;-)

PS. As far as I know, Nancy is no longer on the SW List, at least for the moment -


On Jan 20, 2014, at 2:19 PM, maria galea <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

not sure this question got to the List, so i'm resending - thanks!! :)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: maria galea <[log in to unmask]>
Date: 19 January 2014 21:08
Subject: Re: The Puddle that became an Ocean...
To: "SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages" <[log in to unmask]>

Hi Valerie and others,
could you please clarify a little how the Bible Puddles were divided..
Was the original (2012) ASL Bible Puddle, Nancy's translation only - or did it include Ron Detloff's?
and was that original Bible Puddle divided into 2 or 3 - because now there is the ASL Bible Dictionary, the NLT (Nancy's) and Ron's..
I'm sorry to bother with my question, but it needs to be accurate - because I have the number of signs the ASL Bible Puddle had in 2012 - and I'd like to get a number of what it is today 2014 - but I can't unless I see which Puddles I should be adding together, since they have been divided.
Thanks for your patience,

On 19 June 2013 18:44, Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
SignWriting List
June 19, 2013

Hello everyone on the SignWriting List -

Thank you, Adam, for the message below about the two ASL Bible files in SignPuddle Online.

And a special thank you to Nancy Romero for writing so many books of the Bible, and to Ron Dettloff and his team at the Deaf Shores Church in Michigan who are also writing from ASL videos, and to Steve Slevinski, for helping us split the one large file into two files, and to Adam Frost for always helping me with every detail!

I love the title of your message, Adam - "The Puddle that became an Ocean" - what a lovely poetic way to explain that the truly historic and amazing ASL translations of the Bible, written in the SignWriting Script, by Nancy Romero and also Ron Dettloff's church members, has grown to such a large SignPuddle file, that the file had to be split into two files.

To find the two files, I have expanded the SignPuddle directory area on the web, in the ASL directory, to include icons for the two ASL Bible files. Here is a screen shot of the ASL directory. You may have to refresh your browser if you have visited recently:

ASL SignPuddle Directory


On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Several of us (both on and off this list including Valerie, Steve, Nancy Romero, and myself) have been working hard to face an issue of a SignPuddle that became an ocean. I am referring to the ASL Bible in SignPuddle. The Puddle had to be split into two in order to handle to size in a more manageable way. At the moment they are as followed:

ASL Bible Dictionary

ASL Bible

I know that there are still several background issues that I hope will be solved in time, but I hope that to the everyday person just reading these files won't experience too many problems.




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