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March 2, 2014

Hi Charles -
I think the sorting by SignSpelling Sequence is just starting to get attention, and that is ok, because we have to walk before we can run … all of these needs take time. But SignWriting is making great progress - thank you for your work with this project. I think focusing on Dictionary publishing is an important project, no matter what the language. We need more dictionary projects.

In 2008, I wrote this little manual on SignSpelling Guidelines, in which I discuss the idea of “Syllables” in SignSpellings - I hope it stimulates many research projects of the future ;-)



I look forward to your presentation in the SWS-2014 -

Val ;-)

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On Mar 2, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> It is also why as a Brazilian editor, I am compelled to go in and change every last one of the dictionary listings that have NO sign spelling because the writers in Brazil have not been taught to spell. 
> 
> I am working on a dictionary ordered by handshape, movement, etc., and it has been well received in Brazil, but so far, when it comes down to actually teaching SignWriting, the most they will actually do is divide it by Group, anything more seems to be beyond the research. Trying to publish a dictionary that actually tries to order signs for finding an "unknown" sign in a dictionary does not seem to be ever used. 
> 
> Heaven forfend a hearing person who sees a sign and has no clue what it means and has no way to look it up by handshape because the dictionary writers ALL start with the Portuguese, not the SignWriting. 
> 
> The Sequence is never even mentioned in the books that I have found published in Brazil. I'm trying to show its usefulness by an actual dictionary available from a publisher. 
>  
> Charles Butler
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> 240-764-5748
> Clear writing moves business forward.
> 
> From: Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask] 
> Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 9:38 AM
> Subject: SignSpelling Sequence feature in SignPuddle software
> 
> SignWriting List
> March 2, 2014
> 
> Hi Charles -
> Yes, that is right. SignPuddle software is designed so that only those signs that have a completed SignSpelling Sequence column will sort as you wish them to…Writers create a SignSpelling Sequence for each sign individually…this way you can get the Sequence you want…and you can change the Sequence you chose, if you feel it is not what you want later… To create a SignSpelling Sequence for a sign, you need to be logged into SignPuddle with your password. Click on the SignSpelling button under the sign -
> 
> Signs that do not have a SignSpelling designated for it, are sorted “the best a computer can without knowing what the writer wants”, and that is not good enough…that is why we designed the SignSpelling feature, so that dictionary creators could make it work the way they need…I love the flexibility and the ease-of-use of the SignSpelling feature -
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> 
> Val ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 2, 2014, at 5:28 AM, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> I could use that as an abstract and samples from the current dictionary I am working on, as many more hand shapes from that small beginning are being used now. Many more people are involved and the process may be easier to do if one has the right assumptions. I use the search by hand shape function now, but it is unclear to me, and perhaps it can be used as an example, that unless one spells out every sign in the dictionary, the search function doesn't work consistently. 
>>  
>> Charles Butler
>> [log in to unmask]
>> 240-764-5748
>> Clear writing moves business forward.
>> 
>> From: Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask] 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 11:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: CALL FOR PAPERS: SignWriting Symposium 2014 (SWS-2014)
>> 
>> SignWriting List
>> March 1, 2014
>> 
>> Charles -
>> You have already written a journal article about your dictionary. Maybe you can use that document as a basis for your presentation to the SignWriting Symposium?
>> 
>> In 1999, Dr. Antonio Carlos da Rocha Costa started an academic journal entitled “The SignWriting Journal”. Charles’ article was published in that journal. The article is posted on the web on this web page:
>> 
>> SignWriting in Brazil
>> http://www.signwriting.org/brazil
>> 
>> Scroll down to number 35
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Charles’ article
>> http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs1/sw0066-SW-Journal-Butler.pdf
>> 
>> I wish the SignWriting Journal could be “born-again”. Thank you, Antonio Carlos, for starting it -
>> 
>> Val ;-)
>> 
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>> On Mar 1, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> SignWriting List
>> March 1, 2014
>> 
>> Hello Charles!
>> That will be a good presentation. You are most welcome to prepare an Abstract and Presentation, just as you wish. Share as much as you wish. And you can provide links in your presentation where readers can purchase your materials too.
>> 
>> Please write a one-page Abstract describing or summarizing what your presentation will be about. The Abstract can be written in any language, just as long as we can translate it ;-)
>> 
>> The Abstract will be on the web, so only share what you want to share publicly.
>> 
>> Please send your one-page Abstract to the following two email addresses by April 7th:
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>> [log in to unmask]
>> and
>> [log in to unmask]
>> 
>> Then, if you need help preparing your presentation, which is due July 7th, we will try to help as much as we can, if you have problems with using PowerPoint or whatever…If you read below, there are three venues: written papers, slide presentations and video presentations.
>> 
>> Thanks for your questions - 
>> 
>> I look forward to reading the Abstracts!
>> 
>> Val ;-)
>> 
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>> 
>> On Mar 1, 2014, at 10:10 AM, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I wish to give a presentation on ordering of a sign language dictionary. I am willing to share portions of my ongoing dictionary project, but not the entire dictionary. How do I send a select portion and then have the whole dictionary available for a fee? I want others to understand my work and possibly use its principles. 
>>>  
>>> Charles Butler
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>>> 240-764-5748
>>> Clear writing moves business forward.
>>> 
>>> From: Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: [log in to unmask] 
>>> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 4:28 PM
>>> Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS: SignWriting Symposium 2014 (SWS-2014)
>>> 
>>> SignWriting List
>>> February 28, 2014
>>> 
>>> CALL FOR PAPERS
>>> SignWriting Symposium 2014 (SWS-2014)
>>> 
>>> Abstract submission deadline: April 7, 2014
>>> Presentation submission deadline: July 7, 2014
>>> Online live presentation: July 21-24, 2014
>>> Proceedings published in a web archive: September, 2014
>>> Proceedings published in a PDF book: October, 2014
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ABSTRACTS
>>> 
>>> 1. Abstract deadline: April 7, 2014.
>>> 
>>> 2. Write an abstract that describes your presentation in one page or less. At the top of your abstract, state which of the following categories fits your submission:
>>> 
>>> 	• SignWriting in Education
>>> 	• SignWriting in Literature
>>> 
>>> 	• SignWriting in Software
>>> 	• SignWriting in Research
>>> 
>>> Longer abstracts will also be accepted, but editors will shorten it to make it fit one page. The abstract will be posted on a SWS-2014 web page, which is still under construction. Abstracts will be posted under one of the above categories. If you feel your presentation does not fit any of these categories, please tell us in an email and we will try to decide together with you what to do…
>>> 
>>> 3. Send your Abstract to both these email addresses:
>>> 
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> 
>>> and
>>> 
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 4. Acceptance notices will be sent shortly after your Abstract is received.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> PRESENTATIONS
>>> 
>>> 1. Presentations deadline: July 7, 2014
>>> 
>>> 2. Your presentation can be ANY length you choose, just as long as it is about SignWriting.
>>> 
>>> 3. There are three Presentation Venues: written papers, slide presentations and video presentations.
>>> 
>>> 	a. Written Papers accepted in the following formats:
>>> 	• .pdf
>>> 	• .doc
>>> 	• .docx
>>> 	• .txt
>>> 	• .rtf
>>> 	• .rtfd
>>> 
>>> 	b. Slide Presentations accepted in the following programs:
>>> 	• PowerPoint
>>> 	• Keynote
>>> 	• GoAnimate
>>> 	• Google Docs
>>> 	• SlideRocket
>>> 
>>> 	c. Video Presentations accepted in the following formats:
>>> 	• .mov
>>> 	• .avi
>>> 	• .wmv
>>> 	• Flash
>>> 	• WebM
>>> 	• MPEG-4
>>> 
>>> Software demonstrations through download links can also accompany any of the above three venues.
>>> 
>>> You can present in one, two or all of the above three venues. You are also welcome to join us live on the Symposium dates: July 21-24, 2014, on the web. We will announce how that works in a few weeks, when we learn how to do this ourselves - ha!
>>> 
>>> Before the presentation deadline, we will announce how to post your presentations on the web directly.
>>> 
>>> One last note: Do not present anything that you want to keep private, since all presentations and abstracts will be posted on the web, and will remain on the web long after the Symposium has ended. The purpose of the SignWriting Symposium Online is to bring people together and to share our SignWriting work publicly, not only during the Live Presentation dates of July 21-24, 2014, but also in a Symposium Web Archive that will remain on the web for future generations.
>>> 
>>> This first online Symposium is a learning experience for me (Val ;-), but once we accomplish a successful Symposium this year, it can become a tradition that is easier to work with in the future. So your suggestions for improvement are always welcome -
>>> 
>>> We look forward to reading and viewing your work with SignWriting, and to possibly meet you in July, online or in person...
>>> 
>>> Valerie Sutton
>>> SWS-2014 Chair
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>>> 
>>> Steve Slevinski
>>> SWS-2014 Chair
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>>> 
>>> Adam Frost
>>> SWS-2014 Chair
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>>> 
>>> SignWriting Symposium Submissions:
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