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June 24, 2014

Hello André -
Sorry for my delay in answering - Actually I do not see your A, B and C below to mean the same movement - of course the Jaw goes up and down, so in that sense it is the same but A is very small chattering of teeth - like trembling on the tongue, and B is really biting the tongue - ouch! and C is down-down-down , which is not the same as OUCH!

smile -

so the emphasis and the feeling behind these movements are important -

You know, the little hashtags - the Strike Symbols - those I took from a cartoon series I saw once where they used those in the cartoon to show a person getting struck by something - it was used to show the process of being hit, or struck -

When it comes to animating these, I would think the mouth that is open before the movement would be different depending on the circumstance..so it could be what you have there, or it could be a variety of other open mouth symbols and tongue symbols depending on the situation…which is not much help I realize - I do not know of a rule to suggest -

While we are chatting, I want to let you all know that I am working on the web pages, and Presentation 15 from Tunisia (we have two wonderful presentations from Tunisia) - Presentation 15 by Mohamed Ali Balti, Wafa Laajili and Fedi Bahri - they are doing animation of SignWriting - I did not know this until a few days ago - they sent me some videos to post - at the moment I have one video posted of them teaching in Deaf classroom:

http://www.signwriting.org/symposium/presentation0015.html

So maybe you might want to communicate about this -

I will be working on your page soon, André ;-)

I will tell you when I post their animation videos -

Thanks so much for your questions - I suspect I didn’t help much this evening -

Val ;-)

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On Jun 24, 2014, at 9:58 PM, André L <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hello Valerie,
> thank you for your answer.  I know you are very busy with 40 presentations.
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> If I understand well, Answer 1, 2 and 3 describe the same movement with variation of speed and repetition.  To animate such motion, I need at least 1 other mouth configuration.  Should I use the neutral mouth, the opened mouth (like in question G) or move the teeth symbol up toward the nose and down toward the chin?
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> For answer 4, 5 and 6, it this sequence adequate for animation?
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> For question D and question E, I would like to know if we should represent an opened mouth or if the mouth symbol simply indicates the hidden tongue movement behind a close mouth?
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> Do you think that question F and G are good representation of the mouth movement?
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> Thanks again.
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> André Lemyre
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:34:42 -0700
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Meaning of Teeth, Tongue and Cheeks symbols
> To: [log in to unmask]
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> SignWriting List
> June 24, 2014
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> Hi André -
> I cannot answer your questions related to the sounds such as “open D” etc…sounds are for the SpeechWriting experts (smile)
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> But I can tell you what the symbols mean in SignWriting and MovementWriting…which is writing body movement, which includes the mouth, teeth and tongue…
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> Here is my chart, based on the numbers of the chart:
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> 1. teeth bite down (the teeth strike each other once)
> 2. Chattering (trembling) teeth - like teeth when you are very cold they will go up and down very fast like a Trill
> 3. Chewing three times - the upper teeth go down-down-down
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> 4. top teeth bite down on the tongue
> 5. top teeth chattering (trembling) on top of tongue
> 6.  the upper teeth go down-down-down on the tongue
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> On Jun 24, 2014, at 1:24 PM, André L <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Hello,
> Again, several questions...
> Thanks
> André Lemyre
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> I would like to know the meaning of the following symbols:
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>   With the following symbol, is the mouth opened D or closed E?
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> Are F and G correct movement sequences?
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