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Hi Val,
     Thank you for explaining this.  I am familiar with the sign 
sequence.  It is implemented in SignWriter Studio but I is not currently 
using it to sort.  Also it being part of the the FSW where practically 
the first symbol of a sign sequence is compared to first symbol  of 
another sign sequence, and so one with the second, third symbol in the 
sequence until one is before the other in the default ISWA 2010 order.  
Once the sign sequence is inputed, they can be easily sorted with any 
text sorting algorithm.
     What I got out of Charles talk is that he is proposing a different 
order for sorting the symbols than the default ISWA 2010 order.   
Basically it would be assigned a different sort weight to each of the 
symbols in ISWA2010 than those currently being the default.

Thank you for sharing the link  to the SignSpelling Guidelines 2008.  It 
will be useful for comparing both types of sorting.

If you don't mind my asking what was it the you thought that Steve had 
that could help Charles with his sorting order just as he was finishing 
his talk?
Thanks

Jonathan

On 8/13/2014 1:52 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
> SignWriting List
> August 13, 2014
>
> OK.  There is the world of software, that has many users - software 
> may need to be flexible
>
> There seem to be two needs…
>
> 1. There is the need for sorting sign-dictionaries and sign-vocabulary 
> lists
>
> 2. There is the need for sorting for sign-liguistics characteristics - 
> for linguistic databases
>
> That is why Steve developed the flexible SignSpelling Column feature 
> in SignPuddle...So writers can choose the sequence they want to sort with…
>
> In SignPuddle, when someone asks for a group of signs and they are 
> listed…what order are they listed? If the writer of the signs has 
> entered a SignSpelling Sequence for each sign, those signs are placed 
> first in the list and are sorted by the sequence stipulated by the 
> writer…any other signs in the list that do not have a SignSpelling 
> stipulated, are listed after, and are in a guessed order …I think that 
> is the way the software works ;-)
>
> Here is how I personally see sorting signs for dictionaries…I started 
> a 2010 book, but never finished it, but here is the 2008 booklet -
>
>
> SignSpelling Guidelines 2008
> http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs6/sw0534-SignSpellingGuidelines-2008.pdf
>
>
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