Hi Val,
I am still have problems with Charles messages on the list. For
example, I never got the email from Charles below in either of my email
accounts but got Adam´s reply to it in both of them. I checked my spam
folders and they are not there either.
Just to let you know that the bug on the list software is still there.
Though I understand that you may not be able to do much about it.
So everybody please always reply to Charles so that I can know what he
wrote :-) . LOL Just kidding.
Regards,
Jonathan
On 9/8/2014 11:52 AM, Adam Frost wrote:
> So if I am reading this right, you are comparing two signs of DEAF.
> One with contact and one without. It seems that you are writing the
> SignSpelling Sequence following the basic Handshape-Location-Movement
> order. Ok. So that would mean that you would have DEAF with contact
> ordered as:
>
> 01-01-001-01-02-0204-01-002-01-01-0702-01-001-01-01-0102-03-001-01-01-0404-01-002-01-01-0502-01-001-01-01-01
>
> And DEAF without as:
>
> 01-01-001-01-02-0204-01-002-01-01-0702-03-001-01-01-0404-01-002-01-01-05
>
> Assuming that you are using the Symbol Sequence that is inherit with
> the ISWA 2010, then DEAF with contact would come first before DEAF
> without contact because the first contact star in DEAF with contact
> comes before the arrow moment in DEAF without contact.
>
> But I’m still not seeing what you are referring to. What exactly are
> you trying to do?
>
> Adam
>
> On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Adam and Jonathan.
>>
>> What Jonathan and I are running up against is Sign-Symbol-Sequence by
>> Syllable, so, for example with a sign like Deaf (with face contact)
>> and Deaf (without face contact), I put the first and second positions
>> of the face when there are no contacts but the hand is near the space
>> BEFORE the writing where there is actual contact on the head. The
>> only way to order them in a dictionary (for me) is to have distinct
>> syllables and spellings within syllables. So that first-syllable
>> INDEX HAND-NEAR EAR ARC-(second syllable)-NEAR MOUTH ARC comes
>> before (first syllable) HAND-EAR ARC-CONTACT-(second
>> syllable)EAR-MOUTH-CONTACT.
>>
>> We are trying to order positions on the Head in relation to contacts
>> with the Head in syllables. Trying to get a fixed order of relation
>> to one part of a syllable to the next part.
>> Charles Butler
>> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> 240-764-5748
>> Clear writing moves business forward.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Adam Frost <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 8, 2014 9:58 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Examples of Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting
>>
>> I’m not sure what you mean by 1-3. Do you mean the location on the
>> hand? And what do you mean by Top-Down for the Face?
>>
>> As for the neck, I found this sign with SignSpelling Sequence.
>>
>> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=9098
>>
>> For the shoulder, I found this sign with SignSpelling Sequence.
>>
>> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=7005
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:56 AM, Jonathan Duncan <[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Does anybody have any SignSequence examples for
>>
>> Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting
>> 1. Location Dominant Hand
>> 2. Location Non-Dominant Hand
>> 4. Face (Top-Down)
>> 5. Neck
>> 6. Shoulder
>>
>>
>>
>> I´ve looked through the sign spelling sequences for the ASL and only
>> found examples for
>> 3. Head
>> 7. Torso
>> 8. Hips & Legs
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
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