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It could be.  Depends what Val was thinking when she wrote the 
SignSpellingGuidelines-2008 I guess.

Thank you for showing me those two symbols.  I had never seen them before.

Jonathan
On 9/8/2014 5:12 PM, Adam Frost wrote:
> The only thing I can think of that has anything with relations to 
> location on the hands is  for the fingers and  for the palm of the 
> hand. They are found under SymbolGroup 29, which is not used in daily 
> writing but for more detailed research. Is that what you were 
> referring to?
>
> Adam
>
> On Sep 8, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Jonathan Duncan <[log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Adam,
>>     I am working with Charles on finding a better way for sorting.  
>> So thatīs a bit what Charles was explaining to you some of the 
>> issues.  I know he also asked last week about locations on the 
>> hands.  I know Val was off for a well deserved break.  But we are 
>> still wondering about that too  I believe itīs the same as number 1 
>> and 2 in Syllable 4.
>>
>> I asked about the Syllable 4 below because am adding SignSpelling 
>> Sequence suggestion function to SignWriter Studio.   There will be 
>> two suggestion types,  one that follows Valīs 
>> sw0534-SignSpellingGuidelines-2008.pdf and another for what we are 
>> developping with Charles.
>>
>> So far I have been able to automate a great part of setting the 
>> sequence for a sign from the symbols in a sign (no special location) 
>> for SignSpellingGuidelines-2008.  I have done Sylables 1-3 with a 
>> great measure of success so long as there arenīt more than four hands 
>> and a couple movement symbols.  For composite signs like "Good 
>> morning" in Honduran Sign Language itīs not great at all, but 
>> otherwise I think that it is a time saver.
>>
>> But I got to Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting and I need some examples of 
>> signs sorted that have these features.  I am thinking that many of 
>> these would also be the special location symbol that arenīt used in 
>> everyday writing.
>>
>> Thank you for the two examples you found.  That was helpful.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jonathan
>> On 9/8/2014 9:58 AM, Adam Frost wrote:
>>> I’m not sure what you mean by 1-3. Do you mean the location on the 
>>> hand? And what do you mean by Top-Down for the Face?
>>>
>>> As for the neck, I found this sign with SignSpelling Sequence.
>>>
>>> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=9098
>>>
>>> For the shoulder, I found this sign with SignSpelling Sequence.
>>>
>>> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=7005
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:56 AM, Jonathan Duncan <[log in to unmask] 
>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>     Does anybody have any SignSequence examples for
>>>>
>>>> Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting
>>>> 1. Location Dominant Hand
>>>> 2. Location Non-Dominant Hand
>>>> 4. Face (Top-Down)
>>>> 5. Neck
>>>> 6. Shoulder
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Iīve looked through the sign spelling sequences for the ASL and 
>>>> only found examples for
>>>> 3. Head
>>>> 7. Torso
>>>> 8. Hips & Legs
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>
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