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No one is yahoo.ca the other is gmail.com On 9/8/2014 5:24 PM, Adam Frost wrote: > That is truly strange because if I am getting Charles’ messages > through the list, then it probably isn’t the list that would be the > problem (you would think). And it is strange that you have two emails > acting the same way. Are they both yahoo.ca <http://yahoo.ca>? Maybe > try a different domain? > > Adam > > On Sep 8, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Jonathan Duncan <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > >> Hi Val, >> I am still have problems with Charles messages on the list. For >> example, I never got the email from Charles below in either of my >> email accounts but got Adam´s reply to it in both of them. I checked >> my spam folders and they are not there either. >> >> Just to let you know that the bug on the list software is still >> there. Though I understand that you may not be able to do much about >> it. >> >> So everybody please always reply to Charles so that I can know what >> he wrote :-) . LOL Just kidding. >> >> Regards, >> Jonathan >> >> On 9/8/2014 11:52 AM, Adam Frost wrote: >>> So if I am reading this right, you are comparing two signs of DEAF. >>> One with contact and one without. It seems that you are writing the >>> SignSpelling Sequence following the basic >>> Handshape-Location-Movement order. Ok. So that would mean that you >>> would have DEAF with contact ordered as: >>> >>> 01-01-001-01-02-0204-01-002-01-01-0702-01-001-01-01-0102-03-001-01-01-0404-01-002-01-01-0502-01-001-01-01-01 >>> >>> And DEAF without as: >>> >>> 01-01-001-01-02-0204-01-002-01-01-0702-03-001-01-01-0404-01-002-01-01-05 >>> >>> Assuming that you are using the Symbol Sequence that is inherit with >>> the ISWA 2010, then DEAF with contact would come first before DEAF >>> without contact because the first contact star in DEAF with contact >>> comes before the arrow moment in DEAF without contact. >>> >>> But I’m still not seeing what you are referring to. What exactly are >>> you trying to do? >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Charles Butler <[log in to unmask] >>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Adam and Jonathan. >>>> >>>> What Jonathan and I are running up against is Sign-Symbol-Sequence >>>> by Syllable, so, for example with a sign like Deaf (with face >>>> contact) and Deaf (without face contact), I put the first and >>>> second positions of the face when there are no contacts but the >>>> hand is near the space BEFORE the writing where there is actual >>>> contact on the head. The only way to order them in a dictionary >>>> (for me) is to have distinct syllables and spellings within >>>> syllables. So that first-syllable INDEX HAND-NEAR EAR ARC-(second >>>> syllable)-NEAR MOUTH ARC comes before (first syllable) HAND-EAR >>>> ARC-CONTACT-(second syllable)EAR-MOUTH-CONTACT. >>>> >>>> We are trying to order positions on the Head in relation to >>>> contacts with the Head in syllables. Trying to get a fixed order of >>>> relation to one part of a syllable to the next part. >>>> Charles Butler >>>> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>> 240-764-5748 >>>> Clear writing moves business forward. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Adam Frost <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> >>>> *To:* [log in to unmask] >>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 8, 2014 9:58 AM >>>> *Subject:* Re: Examples of Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting >>>> >>>> I’m not sure what you mean by 1-3. Do you mean the location on the >>>> hand? And what do you mean by Top-Down for the Face? >>>> >>>> As for the neck, I found this sign with SignSpelling Sequence. >>>> >>>> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=9098 >>>> >>>> For the shoulder, I found this sign with SignSpelling Sequence. >>>> >>>> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/searchword.php?ui=1&sgn=4&sid=7005 >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:56 AM, Jonathan Duncan >>>> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Does anybody have any SignSequence examples for >>>> >>>> Syllable 4: Detailed Sorting >>>> 1. Location Dominant Hand >>>> 2. Location Non-Dominant Hand >>>> 4. Face (Top-Down) >>>> 5. Neck >>>> 6. Shoulder >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I´ve looked through the sign spelling sequences for the ASL and >>>> only found examples for >>>> 3. Head >>>> 7. Torso >>>> 8. 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