On 3/25/2015 2:39 AM, Yair Rand wrote:
> @Yu Zhang: I've built into my SignWriting Keyboard script a system for
> adding new layouts without making substantial changes to the
> underlying code. You might want to try this instead of creating a new
> system from scratch. The code for the script is currently on the
> Wikimedia Incubator at
> https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Yair_rand/SWKB.js . There's
> a "skeleton" layout in it called DOSLayout, which should give a good
> idea of how layouts are built. Also, there's a big block of
> documentation at the top of the script.
>
> (Also @Jonathan Duncan: Are you still interested in porting SignWriter
> DOS over to javascript? If so, you might also want to look at the
> documentation and code there. Or I could code the DOS keyboard layout
> if you've got a complete layout thought out already, if you want.)
Yair,
It's still something I would like to do but time doesn't permit me
right now. I am happy to hear that new layouts can be added to your
code. That's great news!! When I get to doing I will definitely take a
look at your code.
Jonathan
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:12 AM, Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> Hello Yu -
> No. The link you show below in your message is NOT the Sign
> Keyboard in the SignWriter DOS program.
>
> The link you have below is a “Fingerspelling Keyboard”, and that
> is NOT writing sign languages with the Sign Keyboad. A
> Fingerspelling Keyboard is used to type Fingerspelling, and that
> is not writing signs themselves…
>
> So although the 17 Fingerspelling Keyboards do use SignWriting
> symbols to write the Manual Alphabets from different countries,
> they are not the Sign Keyboard for typing Sign Languages, using
> SignWriting…
>
> The SignWriter Computer Program, which is not used much any longer
> because it is in MS DOS (you can still use it with DOSBOX
> installed), was a wonderful program because you could switch
> between three kinds of keyboards: Sign, Fingerspelling, and Latin
> Alphabet. So you could switch between typing Sign Language (Facial
> expressions, arm movements, hand movements, head movements,
> gesture), and Fingerspelling (the Manual Alphabets from the
> different countries that are a one-to-one correlation with the
> alphabets from the spoken languages of the countries but are not
> sign language), and typing words with the Roman (Latin) alphabet.
>
> So to learn the Sign Keyboard (not the Fingerspelling keyboard)
> you need to read this document (one I already directed you to):
>
> http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs1/sw0049-SWDOS-Type-Signs.pdf
>
> As far as really using that keyboard, the problem is that it is an
> old program and you will need to download DOSBOX and install it on
> your computer and then download SignWriter DOS and install it
> inside of DOSBOX:
>
> SignWriter DOS Computer Program
> http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/sw44/index.html
>
>
> Then start the program and start playing around with the keyboard…
>
> So this Sign Keyboard which I designed is not inside a more modern
> program right now…I would love it if someone were willing to
> program the general design that we developed for SignWriter DOS,
> and somehow get it to work within newer more modern programs, but
> most software developers want to develop their own style of
> keyboard design…so if you want to do your own from scratch that is
> ok, but you have a big learning curve - you will need to know
> SignWriting (the ISWA 2010) and perhaps write some sign language
> yourself in SignPuddle Online - write a sign language document
> yourself with the drag and drop system in SignPuddle Online for
> awhile to see the symbols and how they work to get a feel as to
> what is needed -
>
> Have you read our ASL Wikipedia articles? A typing system needs to
> be able to create these kinds of articles:
>
> http://ase.wikipedia.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page
>
> or
>
> http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Wp/ase/
>
> Have you tried to type with Yair Rand’s keyboard?
>
> /https://806e8abcad89c3043886d9f62a7903edbba39fa1.googledrive.com/host/0B1Pz4n6wXAfvT18yOTFoSE5Sa2s/SWKB.html/
>
>
> I am sure you will find your way Yu - I am just trying to give you
> a little experience with a very big subject matter - start writing
> some signs with SignPuddle right now…
> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/ … and through experience it
> will start to give you ideas -
>
> Val ;-)
>
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>> On Mar 24, 2015, at 9:27 PM, Yu Zhang <[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Val and Andre,
>>
>> Thank you for your reply and resources!
>>
>> Is this the keyboard that people are using and Val, you said you
>> can type quickly while other people just type with one
>> finger?http://www.signwriting.org/forums/software/fingkeys/fkey001.html
>> And if there can be an tutorial for people to learn how to use it
>> will be great?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Yu
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:15 PM, André L <[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Yu,
>>
>> Have a look at this document:
>> http://www.signwriting.org/archive/docs7/sw0636_SignWriting_Alphabet_Manual_2010.pdf
>>
>> Also
>> http://www.signwriting.org/downloads/
>> and
>> http://www.movementwriting.org/symbolbank/
>>
>> André Lemyre
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:36:23 -0400
>> From: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: SW Keyboard
>> To: [log in to unmask]
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>>
>> Hi my friends,
>>
>> Is there any place to take a look at all the small parts of
>> SW? So that I can roughly know how many keys could be.
>>
>> Thank you!!
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Yu
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