On 8/9/15 11:15 AM, Stefan Woehrmann
thank you very much for
your detailed answer. Of course I am not able to
understand anyhing of the software-secrets
behind these developements but I will share your answer
with our delegs team. ;-))
I realize that I talk technical. I appreciate everyone who takes
the time to read my emails. I have sufficiently built up my
foundation to show some great visuals. 3 years ago, I could talk
about it, today I can show it. We're improving all of the time.
Slowly to the future, step after step.
The software secrets are all contained in the SignWriting 2010
shorten the development time significantly regarding visual display
and advanced searching.
recreate the SignWriting library functions. I would suggest an open
source license, but that is not required. I have the SignWriting
library available in PHP as the SignWriting Icon Server (SWIS), but
it is a legacy server and contains many layers of conversions with
older data formats and other loose ends.
In time, I hope that other programming languages will have a free
and documented function library for Formal SignWriting. In
SignWriting. In PHP, SWIS is backwards compatible with previous
models. Both libraries implement the advanced searching of Formal
Thanks for explaining to
visualize FSW Data as SignWriting ... I checked it with
the Rand-Keyboard. Wow
..this is cool.
It is very cool. Although Yair started with the SignWriting Thin
Viewer, his keyboard has far outgrown my FSW viewer script. The
initial script was less than 3,000 characters long.
I am so excited for the Rand-Keyboard and for increased activity on
Incubator for all sign languages. I wrote about the Yair's keyboard
development for the Wikipedia Signpost as a suggested story. If
anyone wants to help me polish the story, I'd appreciate it.
I see that you wrote my name sign. This is the same way that Madson
Barreto wrote it last year at the 2014 Symposium. He wrote it by
hand in the blink of an eye. How long does it take to write with
the Rand Keyboard?
Can you look for the
meaning of a sign once you know the FSW Data of a sign?
Ah. That is exactly the point. You can
search for FSW stings based on exact matches or approximate matches
which meet a set of criteria.
This can best be seen through SignMaker 2015. For searching, you
need to load the correct dictionary. I picked the ASL Dictionary
with the English interface.
I copied my name sign above and pasted it into the FSW field on the
If the FSW string is valid, it will be loaded into the SignBox.
Excellent. Now open the search tab. There are 6 options, but 2 are
Any of the
first four buttons will find my name sign in the SignPuddle
dictionary. It has been entered twice. Very nice to be
added. Neither has a SignSpelling Sequence, so I will add
that in SignMaker.
When my sign name is sortable, it is longer and looks like
The searching is powered by query strings. After pressing one
of the search buttons (Same Symbols is below), the appropriate
query string will appear at the top of the green dictionary
If you can read query strings, then the above is searching for
3 exact symbol keys: S33100, S20310, and S26b02.
Playing around, I found out that my name sign is the only ASL
sign in SignPuddle that uses that exact movement arrow, but
there are over 30 that use the same arrow with different
rotations and different fills. Query string QS26buu. With
SignMaker, delete every symbol but the movement arrow and then
press the search button "Base Symbols".
Stefan. I love to talk about SignWriting. I realize that I
deal with abstract concepts, but I'm happy to say that I've
been stable for 3 1/2 years with no further disruptions
Thanks for informing me
about the problems with SignMail. I am sorry to hear that
..it has been such a
neat way to exchange messges with my students. But we will
find a workaround
with screenshots and gifs since it is so easy and no
problem at all to create
a message with the delegs Editor ... Thanks for your
There is a trail of historical formats before Formal
SignWriting, but they are larger and more complex to process.
Searching in Formal SignWriting takes the blink of an eye.
I'm happy that you and your classes have enjoyed SignMail. It
is on my list, but as part of SignPuddle 3. I still need to
get back to the new SignText based on SignMaker 2015.
I am so grateful that you have Delegs you can use in your
classroom. What a great time to write signs!
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