PS: Maybe it is easier if I can get confirmation of accuracy of the following table. Thank you for your attention. Regards, dg Rotations parallel to the front wall Rotations parallel to the floor On Sun, 5 May 2019 at 08:27, Daniele Giacomini <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Thank you very much. I need one last confirmation, to be sure that I > understood correctly. Is each couple of the following symbols representing > the same hand position? (I mean: each couple a different position.) > > > > Thank you for your attention. > > Regards, > Daniele > > > > > > On Sat, 4 May 2019 at 18:29, Adam Frost <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> These symbols are difficult for many beginners because of the difference >> in rational and intuitive interpretation of the symbols. The rational >> interpretation comes about when looking that the function of the individual >> symbols and how they get their meaning, which is what you are doing right >> now. And there is nothing wrong with that. Basically, everything your email >> “assumed” is correct in the rational interpretation of the symbols. (Of >> course, I am assuming that by rotating 90º you mean rotating on the floor >> plane rather than the wall plane.) >> >> However, I doubt that you have actually been rotating them the “wrong” >> way because there is an intuitive interpretation as well. The intuitive >> interpretation of the symbols comes into play when you write complete signs >> and the symbols just don’t look right because the fingers aren’t pointing >> in the correct direction. Let me quote from the Hand Symbols Manual. >> >> Finger Direction Is Meaningful >> Two ways to write the same positions: The Top View of the Back of the >> Hand can be written at >> a slant. Some writers feel this looks like real life, because the fingers >> are directed down. >> >> Basically, the intuitive interpretation of the hand symbol means that the >> symbol on the right in the image below can mean the same as the symbol on >> the left. >> >> This is not limited to the Back of the Hand in Top View; this same >> interpretation can be applied to other rotations as well. The best way to >> understand how this interpretation works is by actually writing signs >> instead of analyzing the technical functions of the symbols. >> >> >> Adam >> >> On May 4, 2019, at 4:17 AM, Daniele Giacomini <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I realized that, often, I have been using hand symbols rotated in the >> wrong way. Trying to make my mind clear, I have prepared a table for the >> shape "Angle" and I am asking your help. >> >> *Firstly* to understand if what you can see in the following table is >> correct: >> >> Angle >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *Secondly*: if the first three columns are correct, do I have to assume >> that the rotations in the last three columns should be interpreted as >> parallel to the floor? >> >> *Thirdly*: if the above assumptions are correct, do I have to assume >> that: >> >> , rotated 90° counterclockwise, is the same as ? >> >> >> , rotated 90° clockwise, is the same as ? >> >> , rotate 90° counterclockwise, is the same as ? >> >> >> Thank you for you attention. >> >> Regards, >> Daniele >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________ >> >> SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION >> >> Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] >> >> Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] >> >> SignWriting List Archives & Home Page >> http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist >> >> Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages >> http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 >> >> >> ________________________________________________ >> >> SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION >> >> Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] >> >> Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] >> >> SignWriting List Archives & Home Page >> http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist >> >> Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages >> http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 >> > ________________________________________________ SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1