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August 30, 2019

Hello Suzanne and everyone on the SignWriting List!

Thank you Suzanne for this video link: 

https://youtu.be/GRwFrUeiTnM

I love looking at this video - you are such a good hoop dancer ;-)

Thank you for the "HoopWriting" - so colorful and fun to read! What a clever idea... I will write a second email message soon...

See attached jpg of the first page of the PDF:


On Aug 29, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Suzanne Pach <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi Valerie and other SW list readers,

Thanks for your kind reply, Valerie! 

Strange the PDF wasn't visible, I've added it again, so hopefully it will work this time! Also I've just uploaded my first ever YouTube video :) You can find it here: https://youtu.be/GRwFrUeiTnM

A bit more about hoop dance: it's basically dancing with a hoop. You'll probably know waist hooping, but you can also spin the hoop around your chest, shoulders, knees, spin it on your hand, pass it around your body, throw it in the air, doing isolations (where it seems the hoop stays in the same space, like you'll see in the video), etc. To make it easier to not drop the hoop all the time, adults use adult hoops, which are bigger and heavier than the ones for children. 
By combining different moves, you can create a sequence. You can do moves on different planes, like on the front vertical plane (e.g. spinning it on your hand in a vertical position in front of you body) or the horizontal plane (e.g. spinning it on your hand horizontally above your head). To be able to do the moves, it's important to use the right handshapes for that move (e.g. holding the hoop with palms facing out or spinning the hoop on your hand with four fingers stretched together and thumb sticking out). To be able to transition from one move to the next, handshapes and hand positions are also important, for example with some transitions you should let the hoop spin on your thumb for one spin and then on four fingers. Lines of movement are also very important, for example in transitions from above the head to waist height, but also in moves where you throw the hoop in the air or where you roll the hoop on your body (for example from your shoulder diagonally over your back). I hope it's a bit clearer now what hoop dance is and also why it reminded me of sign language and SignWriting :)

My SignWriting didn't get a lot of practise lately, but hopefully it's a bit readable :) Like I said in my first email I've stolen some punctuation symbols to represent the hoop and the movement arrows that symbolise the movement of the hoop have a little circle added at the tail. The pdf and the video show a full sequence (the numbers in the pdf represent the 8-beat count). Hopefully later I'll write down some individual moves, like some of the ones I mentioned above.

Have a nice day!

Kind regards,
Suzanne Pach

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:17 PM Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
SignWriting List
August 27, 2019

Hello Suzanne and everyone on the SignWriting List!

It is great to hear from you again, Suzanne. Thank you for your message below, and for your work with SignWriting a decade ago. Thanks to you, for the first time, signs and phrases and songs were written in British Sign Language (BSL) in SignPuddle Online, and Dutch Sign Language too, and I remember you taught workshops in the UK and also had a SignWriting blog ... that was a significant contribution for many people who have been downloading and using your writing and also your SignWriting games - thank you!

So now you are writing Hoop Dancing with DanceWriting and SignWriting, and you call it Sutton HoopWriting? Wow... ;-)

Thank you that you are a pioneer once again - I know nothing about Hoop Dancing so you will need to tell us more about it.

Meanwhile, the PDF document, and the video, that you mention in your email were not attached to your message.

There should be no problem to send us a PDF to the SignWriting List, so please send it again. However, posting a video might be too big for the SignWriting List Listserve software so usually people post the video they want to share on YouTube or another server, and then post a link to the video for our SignWriting List readers to follow.

If you have no place to post your video, you and I can email privately to find a way for me to access the video and post it on our YouTube channel for you and then create a link for the SignWriting Lisst.

I look forward to seeing what HoopWriting looks like!

Val ;-)




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Message from Suzanne posted on the SignWriting List, August 27, 2019:

Hi everyone,

I tried to post this on the Facebook group yesterday, but it wasn't really working, so I'll try it again this way :)

I hope you're all well, it has been quite a while! About ten years ago I used to do quite a bit of SignWriting for Dutch and British sign language. The last few years I haven't really been focussed on using sign language / SignWriting. However I am doing hoop dance (hula hoop) quite a bit and this made me realise how similar the two are: hand shapes, hand positions, movement paths, planes of movement... These are all very important in both sign language and hoop dance. So I thought I'd give Sutton HoopWriting a go! 

I've attached a pdf of a hoop sequence I wrote down using Signmaker. What do you think about it? Can you read it? (I've stolen some punctuation symbols to represent the hoop! And the movement arrows that symbolise the movement of the hoop have a little circle added at the tail.)

I've also attached a video of me performing the sequence twice. 

I actually found it quite hard to write the sequence down, but I think it can be very useful. And it will hopefully get easier if I try a bit more! Also I actually created the sequence by writing it down first, then checking if it would work with the hoop.

I know SignWriting started as dance writing, but are there still people today who use SignWriting to write down sports/dance movement?

Kind regards,
Suzanne Pach (from the Netherlands)


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