Dear Steve,

Thanks for the video. Very impressive all the work you've done over the

In case you don't know me... I learned SignWriting more than 10 years ago
when I was learning sign language. My life took a different direction, but
last year I got back into SignWriting when I attempted doing HoopWriting.
Recently I haven't been doing a lot of HoopWriting although I'm still
hooping and haven't forgotten it! :)

You mention it's hard to say who your target audience is, because most
people either use SignWriting but don't know programming or they know
programming but don't use SignWriting. You asked feedback so you know
better what to focus on on your future videos. I think the video was very
interesting, but it could be clearer about what help you need (if any). You
mention your patreon site but would you also like help in other ways? And
if so in what ways? It would be helpful if you made very clear requests.
For the SignWriting users this could be requests for example about input
you need of them about what functionalities of the various SignWriting
sites they find most important, what's missing etc. For the technical
people this could be requests about specific functionalities that need
building. At the moment it is a lot of information and it is hard to know
where to start. (I haven't really been involved with SignWriting recently,
so sorry if I mention things that already have been talked about a lot...)

Talking about the two different audiences I kind of fit into both. I know
SignWriting and I'm learning programming at the moment (eventually I would
like to use my programming skills to develop e-learnings). So far I've
learned some HTML/CSS and a little bit of Python and Javascript. So
hopefully in future I could be of some help if needed. I try to learn a bit
every day and apart from doing tutorials etc it would be good to do some
real life programming to put my skills into practice, so potentially that
could be something SignWriting related. However I'm still very much a

I hope this feedback is of some use to you. Good luck with the next
SignWriting Stream!

Kind Regards,
Suzanne Pach

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 8:43 PM Stephen Slevinski <[log in to unmask]>

> Hi SignWriting List,
> I successfully recorded and posted the first episode of the SignWriting
> Stream.  It's about half an hour.  Not professional. No captions yet,
> unless auto caption works. Let me know. Skip to the end to see the hand
> shapes rain.
> *
> Regards,
> -Steve
> PS - Here are the show notes
> The SignWriting Stream is a live show where we show, teach, and demo all
> about Sutton SignWriting.  The purpose of the show is to highlight our
> current efforts and offerings so that we demonstrate the value we
> provide.  If you find our work interesting or helpful, consider joining
> the Patrons of SignWriting and becoming a member on
> , or donate directly to [log in to unmask]
> The show premise is one shot without a script.  I have five bullet
> points, a few mind-maps, and several websites.  The target audience is
> not well defined.  People who know SignWriting and sign language, don't
> care about the technical details.  People who care about technical
> details don't want to know about writing sign languages. This is why
> your feedback is so important.  What's good, what's bad, and what's
> interesting?  What topics and what formats would you like to see?
> Our current infrastructure and websites need massive work with minimal
> resources.  We do what we can.  Look for improvements over time and
> updates as we continue to grow.
> Stuck in the past, ready for the present, working towards the future.
> SignWriting is complex and has had massive technological churn over the
> years.  My work with SignWriting has evolved as I've built system after
> system for SignWriting with the limited technology of the day.  Over the
> years, I had to rebuild systems for the new technology of today.  Years
> later, I found out that I needed to rebuild the systems for the
> technology of tomorrow as well, so I mapped out the optimal path for
> future growth.  Building on the Sutton SignWriting Standards of 2010,
> 2012 and 2017, I am hopeful and excited for the future of the Sutton
> SignWriting packages.  I am especially pleased with the
> @sutton-signwriting/core package. I will extensively demo this package
> in a future episode.
> And finally, in this episode, I announce that I will be open sourcing
> SignPuddle 2 software later this year.  Before the website
> can be moved to the new server, SignPuddle 2 needs to be rewritten to
> use a database (MySQL or SQLite) rather than SPML.  SPML will be
> supported in SignPuddle 2 as an optional export, but it will not be
> supported in future offerings.  I can reuse the database work from
> SignPuddle 3 and I can update the software to use the font files rather
> than the slow and expensive PHP image scripts.  I will start this
> project after the simple websites are moved to the new server.  Next
> Saturday, I will move to the new server.
> Thanks for reading and watching.
> Other websites in this video:
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