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Hmm… I think it is a matter of what feels the closest to the writer. :-) I guess you could write with the air going out if the details are desired. However, I personally don’t think you could do with out the vibrating lips as was written here: To me, this could be done by having the lips slightly closed, but still enough for air to pass without the lips vibrating. I personally would write without just because I don’t think that much information is necessary, but I haven’t really written this movement often enough to see what the average reader sees. Maybe it should be done with both so that it is easiest for the reader. Adam > On Oct 21, 2022, at 9:03 AM, Valerie Sutton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > SignWriting List > October 21, 2022 > > Dear SW List - > > MOUTH MOVEMENTS FOR MOTORCYCLE > > What do you choose? > > > > > Do we need to show AIR coming out of mouth? Lips forward? Lips vibrating? > > Based on Hector’s video: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0idbOp5RUU <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0idbOp5RUU> > > ________________________________________________ > > SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION > > Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist <http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist> > Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1 <http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1> ________________________________________________ SIGNWRITING LIST INFORMATION Valerie Sutton SignWriting List moderator [log in to unmask] Post Messages to the SignWriting List: [log in to unmask] SignWriting List Archives & Home Page http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist Join, Leave or Change How You Receive SW List Messages http://listserv.valenciacollege.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SW-L&A=1